Administrator Ali E. Posted December 12, 2019 Administrator Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) The NGC Registry now accepts PCGS coins in US competitive NGC Registry sets. Please let us know your feedback and questions. Read more Edited December 12, 2019 by Ali E. MichStateSpartan and JTO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenant Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I'm wondering if you've managed to streamline the process in this new system. In the past, we'd enter in a PCGS certification number and, if I remember right, an NGC employee would have to manually check it / confirm it and add it to our registry and our set, and this could take a few days. Will this (still) be the case with the new system or have you found a way to automate the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Ali E. Posted December 12, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted December 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Revenant said: I'm wondering if you've managed to streamline the process in this new system. In the past, we'd enter in a PCGS certification number and, if I remember right, an NGC employee would have to manually check it / confirm it and add it to our registry and our set, and this could take a few days. Will this (still) be the case with the new system or have you found a way to automate the process? Hello, Revenant. Thanks for the inquiry. There will be a brief waiting/verification period after a collector enters a PCGS coin into his/her NGC Registry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Coins Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Do you just add the PCGS number in the slot. I did and nothing responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post physics-fan3.14 Posted December 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Y'all are announcing this like it is some major upgrade or new feature. How about you acknowledge that this is reversing a wildly unpopular decision made a few years ago? A decision which turned many people off your brand, and saw your business hurt as a result of the negative publicity? How about an apology to all of the collectors insulted and betrayed by this bad decision? Do you think our memories are so short? (this isn't direct at you, Ali, you've always been very helpful - this is directed at the owners and bosses of NGC, and especially the one who wrote a lengthy opinion piece to try and justify his decision even after all of the negative feedback) Edited December 12, 2019 by physics-fan3.14 Morpheus1967, Abuelo's Collection and Conly Rieder 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walkerfan Posted December 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2019 I am just very, very happy about this decision. Thank you so much! I have always supported NGC and will continue to do so! coinsbygary, Ray, USMC, Revenant and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Ali E. Posted December 12, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, SSB Coins said: Do you just add the PCGS number in the slot. I did and nothing responded. Hello, SSB Coins. If you click the green plus sign, you should get a pop-up box like this. You will need to click on the appropriate grader and then enter your cert. number. If you don't, you may need to clear your cache or log out and log in again. Let us know if you need further assistance. Thank you. Edited December 12, 2019 by Ali E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkerfan Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) When I try to add; I don't get a PCGS option. What is wrong? Last night I even had trouble adding an NGC coin. Edited December 12, 2019 by Walkerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Maribeth Posted December 12, 2019 Member Share Posted December 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, Walkerfan said: When I try to add; I don't get a PCGS option. What is wrong? Last night I even had trouble adding an NGC coin. Hello Walkerfan, Please clear your cache and try again. I was able to log in as you and the option was available to me. Thank you for your interest in NGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkerfan Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, BfloGrl said: Hello Walkerfan, Please clear your cache and try again. I was able to log in as you and the option was available to me. Thank you for your interest in NGC. Thank You. I just did that and it worked. Also, I accidentally added a PCGS coin that is already entered, so it won't need to be done over. Thanks again! Edited December 12, 2019 by Walkerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted December 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2019 Wow I don't even know where to start, it was a bad decision in some ways when management decided to stop allowing PCGS graded coins into the competitive registry sets. The real issue was that PCGS coins already in a competitive set were grandfathered in but no new coins could be added, this was highly unfair to those starting new sets. But now you have some; maybe not many but some; collectors that have started a set under the now overruled change who may have passed over a PCGS coin because it could not be used in that registry set, I doubt that those few will be overly happy about passing on a coin that they could now use. When the change was made while I was not overly happy about it I did understand the reason, I however felt (and still do) that there was a much better and more fair solution to this whole issue. Back then I said that the registry standing should be calculated using only NGC graded coins, all PGCS graded coins would be allowed to be seen but given a point score of 0 for the purpose of awarding registry awards. No grandfathering needed, no exclusions, no muss and would have resulted in far fewer upset collectors imo; after all the scoring system is already in place as scores are calculated for NGC graded coins anyway. Just do away with the all coins category and boom done. I have to say that these changes do not make much sense and does not inspire confidence that management has a good understanding of what the customers want. SIVMA Trust, Quarterman24, Ray, USMC and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkerfan Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, physics-fan3.14 said: . Y'all are announcing this like it is some major upgrade or new feature. How about you acknowledge that this is reversing a wildly unpopular decision made a few years ago? A decision which turned many people off your brand, and saw your business hurt as a result of the negative publicity? How about an apology to all of the collectors insulted and betrayed by this bad decision? Do you think our memories are so short? (this isn't direct at you, Ali, you've always been very helpful - this is directed at the owners and bosses of NGC, and especially the one who wrote a lengthy opinion piece to try and justify his decision even after all of the negative feedback) Everyone knows it was a bad decision. No need to try to rub it in their faces. Just be glad that they did the right thing for themselves and for us Edited December 12, 2019 by Walkerfan MichStateSpartan and Jade Collection 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unnut Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 What about world coins? Why is this not available for world coins too? Abuelo's Collection and Vett 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan70 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Thanks NGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physics-fan3.14 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, unnut said: What about world coins? Why is this not available for world coins too? The NGC registry never accepted PCGS World Coins, even before their change to exclude US coins. This is merely restoring the Registry to where it was 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davids5104 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 autobuild set feature does not select my PCGS coins. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisinATX Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Davids5104 said: autobuild set feature does not select my PCGS coins. thanks Turns out you have to wait for your coins to "be approved by an admin" Check the "See pending additions" link and you should see your PCGS additions there. Also, why roll out this new feature and NOT have bulk add? Are we hoping this news is well received by PCGS collectors with just a single coin or maybe two? That was a lot of clicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post erwindoc Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 Im so glad that this is an option again! I have a couple of sets that are SO close to completion and I have(and several major dealers too) have struggled to help me fill them with NGC only coins! Great decision!! allan70, Walkerfan, Crruisercharlie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FloridaFacelifter Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 I have 16 Best in Category awards for my competitive sets, and I stopped using the NGC Registry cold turkey when they would no longer add PCGS coins. Now upon receiving their email I just added 21 PCGS certified coins, and I'm happy they have come to their senses and decided to support the hobby and not just NGC. Quality coins come in both holders, now we once again have a place we can share our entire certified collections. Thank you NGC! Rick, bbartlow, Walkerfan and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenant Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, physics-fan3.14 said: The NGC registry never accepted PCGS World Coins, even before their change to exclude US coins. This is merely restoring the Registry to where it was 3 years ago. Not true. World coins graded by PCGS were allowed until 2012. There was no grandfathering when that rule changed. Kominsky Collection and Abuelo's Collection 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlakeEik Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 Thank you NGC You needed to have an even playing field to keep people interested (by allowing all, or excluding all PCGS coins). Now you do, and it was a wise decision. I understand that NGC needs to promote NGC coins. Otherwise sets may be overrun with PCGS only coins. You may consider changing the focus of the "#1" set to be the "#1 NGC" set, and the secondary category be "mixed", the opposite of what it is now. I realize how slow it is to change these things, but I think it will help NGC in the long run to stay the focus in their own registry. Ray, USMC, Crruisercharlie and SIVMA Trust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physics-fan3.14 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Isn't it nice they made this announcement a week after the deadline for this year's Registry awards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkerfan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, physics-fan3.14 said: Isn't it nice they made this announcement a week after the deadline for this year's Registry awards? I think that was the fairest way. Now, we can all start fresh for next year. Kano's Koins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ernst Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Ali E. said: The NGC Registry now accepts PCGS coins in US competitive NGC Registry sets. Please let us know your feedback and questions. Read more I for one am very pleased that you have added the feature to allow PCGS graded coins as well as the NGC's! I had commented a few years ago that it would be great if we could have both top companies allowing it, to help keep up with our inventory, especially while away and able to double check to see if a certain coin is needed to add to our sets! I know I have gone into different places on vacation and found coins that were graded and would have liked to know for certain if it was the right coin needed, I have duplicates because of it! Thanks for doing this, I think most people would probably agree! But also, I am sure there will be some that don't like the change, if they don't, they don't have to use the feature! I've received coins as gifts and some friends and family don't know that there are different companies and that some folks only want one particular companies slab! Thanks again, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, ChrisinATX said: Turns out you have to wait for your coins to "be approved by an admin" Check the "See pending additions" link and you should see your PCGS additions there. Also, why roll out this new feature and NOT have bulk add? Are we hoping this news is well received by PCGS collectors with just a single coin or maybe two? That was a lot of clicking. NGC does not have a direct link type of access to the PCGS database (PCGS would not allow that I'm sure) so with no direct access there is no ability to do a bulk add. That is also why each coin must be verified by an NGC representative before it can be added to a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisinATX Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Coinbuf said: NGC does not have a direct link type of access to the PCGS database (PCGS would not allow that I'm sure) so with no direct access there is no ability to do a bulk add. That is also why each coin must be verified by an NGC representative before it can be added to a set. I mean.. without the grade, they can't use PCGS's API on their site to verify the coins.. so how WILL this work exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenant Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Walkerfan said: I think that was the fairest way. Now, we can all start fresh for next year. Agreed. For a change like this you want to start fresh with a new year for everyone to add, plan and build. Ray, USMC and Walkerfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenant Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, unnut said: What about world coins? Why is this not available for world coins too? The reason cited when they were removed in 2012 is that there are differences in how PCGS and NGC label / designate some world coins / series and this made it hard for them to do the.manual checking. It was said that they had to do away with PCGS world coins to allow them to expand the registry to include more countries / world competitive categories - and that part of the registry has grown massively in the last 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINMAN1944 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Thank you NGC!!! Sometimes I could not find the coin I needed in an NGC holder. Crruisercharlie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physics-fan3.14 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Walkerfan said: I think that was the fairest way. Now, we can all start fresh for next year. 11 hours ago, Revenant said: Agreed. For a change like this you want to start fresh with a new year for everyone to add, plan and build. Well, they could have made the change a few weeks ago. Or a few months ago. Or a few years ago. Or, they could have listened to their fans and never made the change in the first place. Edited December 13, 2019 by physics-fan3.14 Abuelo's Collection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
