"Just Having Fun" MS68 PCGS Slab! 0

[jom]

Modern common coins are worth more than rarities, as long as someone sticks a high number on a plastic slab. The number does not even need to reflect reality.

 

All true but at some point shouldn't the collector take blame for this? I understand Dragon's POV in his earlier post but if collectors weren't paying such absurd prices for these coins a mis-grading of a coin really isn't that big of a deal. So is it PCGS or NGCs fault collectors are paying exorbitant prices for very slightly "better" coins? Or is it the collectors themselves? I favor the latter....

 

jom

[Treeman]

It does lie with the collectors. They would rather trust, and chase, a piece of plastic with a number, than actually learn about the coin. Hence my statement,

"Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when people collected the actual coins... "

[mark]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

[brg5658]

Well, the coin has posted to the Heritage ANA Auction in August. I guess we'll see what the "market" thinks this coin is worth (assuming there is truly no reserve on the coin).

 

The Heritage Description:

1964-D 10C MS68 Full Bands PCGS. Ex: Just Having Fun. This is the sole finest 1964-D Roosevelt dime certified with Full Bands (6/16). The luster is satiny and vibrant, and rich russet-orange, sun-yellow, and forest-green toning surrounds the margins. The centers remain brilliant. The Registry Set collector should not let this top-grade coin pass by. (NGC ID# 23M3, PCGS# 85129)

 

Heritage Auctions images:

 

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Interestingly, the very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay are no longer visible on the Heritage Auctions images...

 

Wondercoin eBay auction images:

 

 

[Nutmeg Coin]

Back around 1999 Mr. Nachbar at Baltimore had a large hoard of Roosevelt dimes, original rolls for not much over the GS price before those prices appreciated, but you had to buy the whole thing. Who says there isn't a Santa Claus in numismatics?

[MarkFeld]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

 

Well said (and not just because your name is "Mark" )

[MarkFeld]

Well, the coin has posted to the Heritage ANA Auction in August. I guess we'll see what the "market" thinks this coin is worth (assuming there is truly no reserve on the coin).

 

The Heritage Description:

1964-D 10C MS68 Full Bands PCGS. Ex: Just Having Fun. This is the sole finest 1964-D Roosevelt dime certified with Full Bands (6/16). The luster is satiny and vibrant, and rich russet-orange, sun-yellow, and forest-green toning surrounds the margins. The centers remain brilliant. The Registry Set collector should not let this top-grade coin pass by. (NGC ID# 23M3, PCGS# 85129)

 

Heritage Auctions images:

 

=================================

 

Interestingly, the very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay are no longer visible on the Heritage Auctions images...

 

Wondercoin eBay auction images:

 

 

My guess is that once the sale is posted, there will also be an image of the coin in the holder. And, since such images are typically darker than the non-holder images, the "very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay" will be visible.

[brg5658]

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Interestingly, the very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay are no longer visible on the Heritage Auctions images...

...

 

My guess is that once the sale is posted, there will also be an image of the coin in the holder. And, since such images are typically darker than the non-holder images, the "very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay" will be visible.

 

Mark, the slab images are already posted. I cannot make out any green spots in either the separate reverse images (posted above) or the reverse images of the slab (posted below)...

 

[MarkFeld]

...

Interestingly, the very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay are no longer visible on the Heritage Auctions images...

...

 

My guess is that once the sale is posted, there will also be an image of the coin in the holder. And, since such images are typically darker than the non-holder images, the "very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay" will be visible.

 

Mark, the slab images are already posted. I cannot make out any green spots in either the separate reverse images (posted above) or the reverse images of the slab (posted below)...

 

 

Thank you, Brandon. I don't see them there, either. I don't remember the coin well enough to state which image it most closely resembles.

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Well, the coin has posted to the Heritage ANA Auction in August. I guess we'll see what the "market" thinks this coin is worth (assuming there is truly no reserve on the coin).

 

The Heritage Description:

1964-D 10C MS68 Full Bands PCGS. Ex: Just Having Fun. This is the sole finest 1964-D Roosevelt dime certified with Full Bands (6/16). The luster is satiny and vibrant, and rich russet-orange, sun-yellow, and forest-green toning surrounds the margins. The centers remain brilliant. The Registry Set collector should not let this top-grade coin pass by. (NGC ID# 23M3, PCGS# 85129)

 

Heritage Auctions images:

 

=================================

 

Interestingly, the very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay are no longer visible on the Heritage Auctions images...

 

Wondercoin eBay auction images:

 

 

My guess is that once the sale is posted, there will also be an image of the coin in the holder. And, since such images are typically darker than the non-holder images, the "very prominent green spots on the reverse under "UNITED STATES" visible in the Wondercoin provided images on eBay" will be visible.

 

I am sure the listing states the bands are fine, and that Mr. Wondercoin looked at the coin and gave his opinion of the coin as promised. I recall he gave you open permission to do so also, some time ago.

 

Maybe the listing should include a link to this Thread.

 

I am still trying to understand what the bands are fine means and what a grade of the bands are fine means. It must mean something.

 

This picture is quite different from the picture his son took, and as I recall, he thought the picture taken by his son was quite good. Maybe that picture should be used in the listing? It certainly shows the marks better.

[MJ]

400 bottles of beer on the wall, 400 bottles of beer.......

 

mark

[EleMint Man]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

 

You said it in the true spirit of collecting for the joy of it. No negativity here!

Part of the fun being a serious collector at least for me, is the learning process by educating myself. In the end, I make the decisions, not a dealer or a slab!!

 

Here is a Roosie that tied for the second finest known example of a 1964 D.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1234-4168.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

 

Strategically anticipating some expert analytical comparisons to "Just Having Fun"

 

 

[MJ]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

 

 

 

You said it in the true spirit of collecting for the joy of it. No negativity here!

Part of the fun being a serious collector at least for me, is the learning process by educating myself. In the end, I make the decisions, not a dealer or a slab!!

 

Here is a Roosie that tied for the second finest known example of a 1964 D.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1234-4168.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

 

Strategically anticipating some expert analytical comparisons to "Just Having Fun"

 

 

That 67+ is a much better looking coin based on the pics. Highest grade does not always equal better. I would hope that is universally known

 

Mark

Edited July 5, 2016 by MJ

[MarkFeld]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

 

 

 

You said it in the true spirit of collecting for the joy of it. No negativity here!

Part of the fun being a serious collector at least for me, is the learning process by educating myself. In the end, I make the decisions, not a dealer or a slab!!

 

Here is a Roosie that tied for the second finest known example of a 1964 D.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1234-4168.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

 

Strategically anticipating some expert analytical comparisons to "Just Having Fun"

 

 

That 67+ is a much better looking coin based on the pics. Highest grade does not always equal better. I would hope that is universally known

 

Mark

 

Mark, I was going to post something very similar to that, but you beat me to it. "Highest graded" can be ascertained, but the same can't necessarily be said of "finest known". And one doesn't necessarily equate to the other.

[Walkerfan]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

 

 

 

You said it in the true spirit of collecting for the joy of it. No negativity here!

Part of the fun being a serious collector at least for me, is the learning process by educating myself. In the end, I make the decisions, not a dealer or a slab!!

 

Here is a Roosie that tied for the second finest known example of a 1964 D.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1234-4168.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

 

Strategically anticipating some expert analytical comparisons to "Just Having Fun"

 

 

That 67+ is a much better looking coin based on the pics. Highest grade does not always equal better. I would hope that is universally known

 

Mark

 

The 67+ has much better color than the JHF piece but the reverse seems incredibly marked up (abraded) to me.

 

Even more so than the JHF piece and too much for a 67+.

 

This is JMHO, as I am not a Roosie specialist.

[EleMint Man]

Agreed. Those are some nasty hits on the field, olive leaf and torch. They would bother me in any grade. Makes the olive branch look like it has a oblong head with a idol like face!

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

 

 

 

You said it in the true spirit of collecting for the joy of it. No negativity here!

Part of the fun being a serious collector at least for me, is the learning process by educating myself. In the end, I make the decisions, not a dealer or a slab!!

 

Here is a Roosie that tied for the second finest known example of a 1964 D.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1234-4168.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

 

Strategically anticipating some expert analytical comparisons to "Just Having Fun"

 

 

That 67+ is a much better looking coin based on the pics. Highest grade does not always equal better. I would hope that is universally known

 

Mark

 

Mark, I was going to post something very similar to that, but you beat me to it. "Highest graded" can be ascertained, but the same can't necessarily be said of "finest known". And one doesn't necessarily equate to the other.

 

Mark (Mr Feld), have you seen and reviewed the wondercoin Roosie? What is your opinion, given that he gave you permission to share the opinion. Was there any Heritage discussion concerning the description to use? The wording seems to be a tad tilted toward Registry Set participants, as opposed to any intererested rarity collector, which I can understand.

[MarkFeld]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

 

 

 

You said it in the true spirit of collecting for the joy of it. No negativity here!

Part of the fun being a serious collector at least for me, is the learning process by educating myself. In the end, I make the decisions, not a dealer or a slab!!

 

Here is a Roosie that tied for the second finest known example of a 1964 D.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1234-4168.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

 

Strategically anticipating some expert analytical comparisons to "Just Having Fun"

 

 

That 67+ is a much better looking coin based on the pics. Highest grade does not always equal better. I would hope that is universally known

 

Mark

 

Mark, I was going to post something very similar to that, but you beat me to it. "Highest graded" can be ascertained, but the same can't necessarily be said of "finest known". And one doesn't necessarily equate to the other.

 

Mark (Mr Feld), have you seen and reviewed the wondercoin Roosie? What is your opinion, given that he gave you permission to share the opinion. Was there any Heritage discussion concerning the description to use? The wording seems to be a tad tilted toward Registry Set participants, as opposed to any intererested rarity collector, which I can understand.

 

John, I briefly viewed the coin when it arrived. My recollection is that I thought the obverse graded 68 and he reverse 67 (or perhaps 66+). Overall, I graded the coin 67+. For the record, I rarely agree with MS68 grades and I believe many coins which receive 68's these days would not have done so roughly two or more years ago.

 

I did not have any discussion with any catalogers, nor will I.That is their department, not mine.

 

I can also understand the Registry Set tilting you mentioned with respect to the wording in the description.That is usually the case with top pop coins.

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.

 

These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.

 

Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.

 

Mark

 

 

 

You said it in the true spirit of collecting for the joy of it. No negativity here!

Part of the fun being a serious collector at least for me, is the learning process by educating myself. In the end, I make the decisions, not a dealer or a slab!!

 

Here is a Roosie that tied for the second finest known example of a 1964 D.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1234-4168.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

 

Strategically anticipating some expert analytical comparisons to "Just Having Fun"

 

 

That 67+ is a much better looking coin based on the pics. Highest grade does not always equal better. I would hope that is universally known

 

Mark

 

Mark, I was going to post something very similar to that, but you beat me to it. "Highest graded" can be ascertained, but the same can't necessarily be said of "finest known". And one doesn't necessarily equate to the other.

 

Mark (Mr Feld), have you seen and reviewed the wondercoin Roosie? What is your opinion, given that he gave you permission to share the opinion. Was there any Heritage discussion concerning the description to use? The wording seems to be a tad tilted toward Registry Set participants, as opposed to any intererested rarity collector, which I can understand.

 

John, I briefly viewed the coin when it arrived. My recollection is that I thought the obverse graded 68 and he reverse 67 (or perhaps 66+). Overall, I graded the coin 67+. For the record, I rarely agree with MS68 grades and I believe many coins which receive 68's these days would not have done so roughly two or more years ago.

 

I did not have any discussion with any catalogers, nor will I.That is their department, not mine.

 

I can also understand the Registry Set tilting you mentioned with respect to the wording in the description.That is usually the case with top pop coins.

 

Thank you Mark.

[coinman_23885]

John, I briefly viewed the coin when it arrived. My recollection is that I thought the obverse graded 68 and he reverse 67 (or perhaps 66+). Overall, I graded the coin 67+. For the record, I rarely agree with MS68 grades and I believe many coins which receive 68's these days would not have done so roughly two or more years ago.

 

With regards to the green specs on the reverse, if those are not artifacts, do you think it is PVC? Also some posters suggested that the marks on the torch were caused by strike throughs. Do you think this is the case or are those post strike hits on the torch?

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

John, I briefly viewed the coin when it arrived. My recollection is that I thought the obverse graded 68 and he reverse 67 (or perhaps 66+). Overall, I graded the coin 67+. For the record, I rarely agree with MS68 grades and I believe many coins which receive 68's these days would not have done so roughly two or more years ago.

 

With regards to the green specs on the reverse, if those are not artifacts, do you think it is PVC? Also some posters suggested that the marks on the torch were caused by strike throughs. Do you think this is the case or are those post strike hits on the torch?

 

As a clarification only, are you asking the questions from a point of view of the FB designation? I note Mark did not use an opinion description of 67+FB, or actually, FB at all.

[MarkFeld]

John, I briefly viewed the coin when it arrived. My recollection is that I thought the obverse graded 68 and he reverse 67 (or perhaps 66+). Overall, I graded the coin 67+. For the record, I rarely agree with MS68 grades and I believe many coins which receive 68's these days would not have done so roughly two or more years ago.

 

With regards to the green specs on the reverse, if those are not artifacts, do you think it is PVC? Also some posters suggested that the marks on the torch were caused by strike throughs. Do you think this is the case or are those post strike hits on the torch?

 

I thought it was splotches, but not PVC, though my examination was very brief. At least (edited) most of the reverse marks appeared to be man-made (not mint-made)..

Edited July 6, 2016 by MarkFeld

[MarkFeld]

John, I briefly viewed the coin when it arrived. My recollection is that I thought the obverse graded 68 and he reverse 67 (or perhaps 66+). Overall, I graded the coin 67+. For the record, I rarely agree with MS68 grades and I believe many coins which receive 68's these days would not have done so roughly two or more years ago.

 

With regards to the green specs on the reverse, if those are not artifacts, do you think it is PVC? Also some posters suggested that the marks on the torch were caused by strike throughs. Do you think this is the case or are those post strike hits on the torch?

 

As a clarification only, are you asking the questions from a point of view of the FB designation? I note Mark did not use an opinion description of 67+FB, or actually, FB at all.

 

Sorry, I thought it was FB..

[PocketArt]

Mark, I commend you for your honesty, and I think Heritage has a great representative and counselor.

 

Rich

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rainbow roosie]

I've seen a few Rosie's and have stayed out of this thread. Until now. The second highest graded coin shown above has a clear tick mark on the most obvious grading point. Bad coin to use in any comparison...not a 67 plus.

[EleMint Man]

 

Missed this one for I didn't look any further after finding the first m67+. I assumed there would be only one in this auction. Who would have thought there be would two!? This example is a much better comparison imo. The toning is nice though not stellar and it looks to be problem free.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1156-3456.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515#

 

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[Walkerfan]

Missed this one for I didn't look any further after finding the first m67+. I assumed there would be only one in this auction. Who would have thought there be would two!? This example is a much better comparison imo. The toning is nice though not stellar and it looks to be problem free.

 

http://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1964-d-10c-ms67-full-bands-pcgs/a/1156-3456.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515#

 

...

 

That one has the best surface preservation out of them all (very smooth and clean) but the toning is nothing special.

 

The bands are full but the torch is not.

 

It is the best one of them all with all things considered. JMHO.

[Wondercoin]

I am very happy Mark concluded in his professional opinion that the 64-D Dime graded MS67+FB. I highly value Mark's opinion. I believe the last Washington Quarter I asked Mark's opinion on (as I could not make it to the show) was an MS68 graded coin that I needed for my set and Mark graded the coin MS66! As Mark stated here, he "rarely" agrees with the MS68 assigned grade which is why I personally selected him to comment on this thread (giving him unfettered permission to say anything he wanted about the dime in question) and why I sent the dime off to Heritage for auction. I believe Mark is a "conservative" grader and that is nothing but a compliment. If I wanted someone to assist me with building a World Class personal collection, I would desire exactly that sort of coin grader in my corner.

 

I am glad Mark concluded the bands were full. As I said before, the bands in my opinion were fine.

 

In my opinion, the reason PCGS was comfortable grading this coin MS68FB back when it did was that the eye appeal and beauty of the obverse of the coin (that I believe is close to MS68+ quality) simply carried the day. You just don't see obverses of 1964-D Roosie Dimes that look as spectacular as the obverse of this coin. I personally have never seen another that I recall.

 

Finally, I continue to be impressed with my son Justin's coin photography. It keeps getting better every day. He had the privilege to train under Stacks #1 Coin Photographer last year and she really improved Justin's game. Thanks again BK for making that possible! For about a half year now, Justin has had his own business going on eBay ("monstercoinmart") where he accepts coin consignments, plans to deal routinely in monster toned and monster DCAM coins, and handles "hot" new Mint product offerings, while continuing to help me as well.

 

As always, just my 2 cents.

 

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Edited July 15, 2016 by Wondercoin

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