Conder101

These little mini double eagles come in different compositions depending on when they were made. I've seen them 24 Kt, 22 Kt, 8 Kt and gold plated. They are all crude, they may all use the same dies, I don't know.

I think 43 N-8

Not off-center, rev die appears to be very slightly misaligned toward 3:00. Not a broadstrike either. Obv seems to show some rim weakness in the lower left quadrant, but does not appear to be misaligned.

That is the VERBAL opinion given at the convention may not match the grade that comes back from the grading room. Reason is the viewing conditions are different.

They would have to be at least $32 as the mint sells them to the distributor for spot + $2 But if the premium is now $1 the price would still be $41 per coin not the $31 you wanted to pay Now in this case you are able to but the coins for $21 instead of the $31, but you lost $10 on the SLV so it is the same as paying $31 for a coin that is now worth $21. This is a hedge?

OK, for some reason I misread the date of the bill and thought it was 1857, which would have made it AFTER the assay office and later mint was opened

I wasn't rude, nor did I dismiss the possibility that she made have had the real thing, I just said that better pictures were needed. How many were known before the first one was discovered? And after the first one was found, if everyone followed your advice and never bothered to look for another because only one was known so what are the chances, would the second one have ever been found? Yes it is extremely unlikely to find another so it would be foolish to make it your life's work, but if you have nothing better to do at the moment what does it hurt to do some searching? I just kills a little time.

It does kind of look like a small date, but I would like a clearer image. It also looks like the 2 is damaged which could be throwing me off.

I checked and it was because I clipped it from a quote of pogohatesme in a thread you posted.

I value it at ten cents.

Did you tell him before or after he called it a 64? And it still has nothing to do with ethics. Have you never changed your mind on something upon re examination or reconsideration?

Not a coin, which is probably why you can't find information on it. There isn't nearly as much written on tokens, and even less on privately produced medals.

I'm not sure it would have changed things all that much. This provision would have made all the gold in the US in the ground government property, and would have required miners to turn over what the found/dug up to the government at the Mint price. But most all of the gold probably made its way to the Mints eventually anyway and was coined or turned into bars at mint price. all this would have done was to try to stop raw gold from leaving the country, and since the Mint paid about as well as anyone else, why ship it out raw? The only other thing it would have done was reduced the use of raw gold as an item of exchange. The gold would have still been mined and then turned over to the government district agent instead of taking the trouble to transport it to the mint for the same price. If you get the same money either way, let the government have the headache of transport, and run the risk of theft.

Yes, without an XRF reading that showed an unusually high zinc content like maybe 15 - 20% zinc I wouldn't accept it a s brass. To me cleaned copper/bronze can have the same appearance as brass.

And that you can afford. I find early large cents in MS very pleasing to the eye, but I' not going to have much of a collection if I can only buy one coin every 15 to 20 years. You have to find a compromise. In my case I prize completeness and rarity over quality so my early date variety set is low grade, averaging around G4 to 5. But there are only a small handful of collectors with collections more complete than mine. (and their incomes a MUCH higher than mine.)

Very true. The Mint itself doesn't really have any need for coin rolling equipment. So why buy it when it was probably cheaper to just have the rolling done by a firm that DID have the equipment. They already have the coins in balistic bags, and the company already has the means of handling them so just ship them the bags and the wrapping paper.

Uh Oh, memories going.

It is probably silver solder (they don't use lead or tin based for jewelry, too weak) it's going to have a melting point between 640 and 740 C. One thing you could probably do is to soak it in 18K gold testing solution (which is basically nitric acid) It will dissolve the silver and base metals in the solder but won't affect the 900 fine gold alloy. You could use 14 or 10K testing solution which would take longer but would be even less likely to have an effect on the gold.

According to Gifford, both the proof and business strike dies used the same four digit logotype punch (and he only lists two obv dies, both used to strike proof and one to strike business strikes) This punch doesn't match. Odds are very likely this is a recent counterfeit

Yep, been that way for what eight or nine years now.

Appears to be a medal (Probably privately issued) not a coin.

Anyone who has been collecting for awhile knows that the coins in the mint wrapped rolls or $25 bags are just as likely to be scratched up as regular bank wrapped rolls because they are both handled the same way. And the bags are possibly more likely to be bag marked because the coins can continue to move around against eash other during handling and shipping. The problem comes from people who expect the coins to be pristine because they are "Mint wrapped" or "direct from the Mint"..

Apply some logic. the date start with 19 and ends with a 6. I am going to assume it is a Memorila cent so that means it is 1966, 76, 86 or 96. It appears to be copper and I would expect damage like that to have exposed the zinc if it was a plated cent so we can eliminate 86 and 96. It has a mintmark so we can eliminate 66, that leaves 76. Pretty obvious. Now if the weight showed it to be plated zinc, then you would check the AM on the reverse, Wide AM it would be an 86, close AM a 96.

The fact that they may not bother to do anything to you, does not make it right or legal to just walk out with the merchandise. It is still theft. If a cop sees you doing 80 in a 55 zone but doesn't pull you over that doesn't make driving 25 mph over the speed limit OK.

If so the Congressman is wrong.