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On 4/21/2021 at 11:28 AM, Coinbuf said:

we are here to help not be your research team.

Very well put Coinbuf!  Couldn't agree more.  With the plethora of information on the web these days regarding coins...... And if the links have already been supplied to a Forum 'thread poster'..... then ya gotta take some time as a new (or even seasoned) collector to start the learning process at some point in time.  Just MHO. 

Thanks for that link Morpheus.  After watching the Radium Girls trailer on YouTube, Uh..... Karen..... you may want to purchase a Kryptonite LEAD chest to store that joker in.......or better yet, just don't lick it may be better advice....pretty scary stuff..

Welcome to NCG! No doubt a metal detecting find and a cleaned up coin but I'm gonna have to say I ain't seeing a 43' on this sucker.  How can I tell you found it metal detecting?? Because I'm "digging" (yes, pun intended) the dirt encrusted and serrated thumbnail in your first pic!!!   I too LOVE metal detecting my friend but the probability of unearthing a 1943 copper Linc Wheatie while metal detecting probably carries the same odds as the combined total of:  winning the Lottery Powerball twice, being struck by lightning AND, well...... finding a 1943 copper Linc while detecting.....  To answer your question, it's basically worth face value (or maybe a few more cents due to it being copper).  Good luck though!!!!

3 minutes ago, KarenHolcomb said:

The word Radium along with a number, I think, is stamped into the chain like 18k would be stamped into a Gold chain

Not familiar with Radium being used in precious metal items, I may be wrong.  Look at it closely and make sure it doesn't say PALADIUM......Paladium is now one of the most rare and precious metals sought after I believe.  

2 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said:

[Permit me to add, you are now the undisputed King -- not of injury to coins -- but of the run-on, one-liners.]😉

Totally agree.... But HEY......The first sentence in the post contained a period.... Just sayin.....LOL!!! And the first pic of the OP was a great hazy looking rendition of a clipped planchant....

On 2/22/2019 at 3:08 PM, JKK said:

If you argue about a "double die" at fatuous length when it's clear you don't know what one really is, you will look like the kid with soot all over him insisting he didn't really dig around in the fireplace.

Don't be that kid.

Your entire post is AWESOME JKK!! But, your last sentence I quoted above is so true and made me laugh out loud😂. Excellently well put in its entirety and thank you for spending your valuable VOLUNTEERED TIME AND EXPERTISE in composing that educational post and really getting to the point. Not to say that newcomers to this great hobby will still need guidance, and the advice, and the professional educational input of the veterans on this site but, your well written detailed outline should really help narrow down some of the confusion while possibly shortening  the learning curve of newcomers (especially to NOT argue with the pros here on the forum!!!). Great job!!!👍

Welcome to the forum Anson.  Even if it was an RPM, which I can't remotely determine from the pic, it would not be anywhere close to feasible from a financial standpoint to submit as most RPM's for this date are worth way less than submission costs. Your coin also looks like it has been re-plated as best as I can tell from your picture due to it's 'shiny' appearance. If so, it is only worth face value.  

This quarter has suffered nothing more than who knows what... PMD all day long. Impossible for it to leave the mint in this fashion and it is underweight as well for this year as well as a tremendous amount of abrasion as mentioned.  I believe this is the first rendition of "The Washington Dumbo" Quarter.  I would place it in a 2x2 and relish the fact that it actually looks like a huge ear. Pretty cool find IMHO.

4 minutes ago, Just Bob said:

To answer your above question: In order to be designated Full Bell Lines,  PCGS requires the bottom set of lines to be full, NGC requires it of both top and bottom lines.

Great circulation find! 

Thank you Just Bob. That’s the same info I had read about the bands and thank you for that confirmation. Thank you for the kudos on the find (actually my son found it.... lol). 

28 minutes ago, RWB said:

The coin is a nice EF and the bell lines are well defined, but not entirely full. Still a nice piece of silver for 50-cents. (Remind your son these once circulated as ordinary pocket change.)

Thank you RWB. My three children are always bringing me their pocket change and wondering if they have “anything in there”..... I love it. This is by far the neatest coin I’ve seen from change from a convenience store. Thank you for your reply. 

The more I look at this coin, in addition to doing my own research, the more I am seeing this is not going to be an FBL example. The immediate areas to the left and right sides of the bell crack are distorted enough that it will most likely take it out of the FBL category. Oh well.... maybe next time. 

Also meant to ask about the different TPG’s and their assessment of FBL’s. I believe I read that one takes both into consideration and the other only recognizes the lower LINES on the bell. Some clarification here would be appreciated. Thanks. 

47 minutes ago, Lem E said:

Hello. I think the term you are looking for is FBL or FULL BELL LINES. Full bands is used for dimes. Im not a half dollar guy but if it is anything like the full step nickel designation, I would assume the lines would have to go all the way across with no interruptions. Still a pretty cool piece to get in change, and the pics are really pretty good!

Hey Lem E. Yes.... my correction.... FBL is what I meant to say. FULL BELL LINES..... Poor proofreading on my part before I posted. I’m familiar with full bands (or full torch) on Roosevelt reverses and full steps on Jefferson’s. Just got in a hurry with my post, my apologies. Thanks for the comment about a cool find and my pics. Just seems the lighting in my pics is not always the greatest.... but what can you expect from just using an iPhone and a 10x loupe sometimes...   Thanks again. 

My son received this in pocket change tonight from a local store. I noticed immediately by the date that it was at least a silver half. I’m trying to learn these designations but was wondering if this may qualify as Full Bands based on these less than spectacular pics?  Thanks. 

I was able to remove all the build-up on this coin to reveal its details. Unfortunately, as good as several aspects of this coin appeared to be very promising, I am unable to see any doubling inside, or around, the letters of GOD.  It does have many attributes that closely match VV’s example of this variety but without the doubling in GOD I believe this is a dead end. Thank you for your help. 

1 hour ago, Moxie15 said:

spend it and move on. I see nothing on or about that dime that is worth keeping. If you think it is a DDO then go to variety vista and look for a match. 

I also meant to add that this variety is recognized by TPG’s as a valid DDO. It is definitely a difficult one to recognize and I’m not saying that this is one but it very closely resembles the VV listing. I was kindly looking for some input on an appropriate way to clean the gunk from this coin being that it is a clad. As I mentioned, I know acetone is safe for copper but is it safe for this?  Thanks. 

1 hour ago, Moxie15 said:

go to variety vista and look for a match. 

Uh..... I did. I explained that in my opening post narrative ..... that’s why I decided to post it here  

Not sure about this one but hopefully someone will be. My first question is how to carefully get the build-up out of GOD in order to see what may be doubling. I know how to appropriately and safely “de-scum” copper cents with acetone but I’m simply not sure about a clad dime. 
The rest of this coin appears to be a very good match to the pictures I compared it to complements of Variety Vista for the FS-101 listing of this potential variety. (Sorry if the pictures are not in the order I intended).  Thank you to all who view and comment. 
-Greg

10 hours ago, DWLange said:

The mintmark displays just die erosion. A number of 1985-P dimes appear to have been coined on unmilled planchets (ones that were not given a raised rim in the upsetting mill), but it's less often seen with 1985-D dimes. This circumstance aggravated the poor definition and distorted lettering seen on the subject coin. All of these issues were matters of poor quality control, a condition that was widespread at the U. S. Mints in the early 1980s.

Thank you for that info, much appreciated. With all due respect, is this a waste of time trying to attribute? The three clearly defined serifs at the top, and the three at the bottom of the leg, are readily visible. 

28 minutes ago, DWLange said:

Corrosion is a good possibility, but another is that the coin has been immersed in an ultrasonic generator (rock cleaner). I've known people who cleaned coins by that method, and one left in too long looks just like the subject coin.

Ok... that’s the first that I’ve ever heard of but I can absolutely see how an ultrasonic machine could cause the weird distortion and finish to a bronze coin. That’s good knowledge. Thanks. 

18 minutes ago, MarkFeld said:

It looks corroded.

I honestly just don’t see that being the case. The entire coin exhibits this uniform grainy texture and then the odd raised curvy line over LIBERTY I don’t see being caused or created by erosion. If it was a zinc I’d be inclined to go with that and would have never posted it. The rim has noticeable ridges (not reeding) as well in certain areas. I’ve seen thousands of eroded coins but this one just doesn’t seem to fit into that category with all due respect. It looks like a bad plating issue but we know that isn’t possible for this year. Thanks for the reply Mark. 

Did some looking around on surface finishes on bronze coins but mainly only found info regarding newer plating issues on ‘83 and newer. Not plate blisters or occluded gas bubbles here because this isn’t a zinc. At first glance I thought I had a 1960 D Large/Small but I don’t think that’s the case. Just curious how a bronze could exhibit this cool looking texture which appears to be mint made. I don’t see any signs of ED because this coin is solid both obverse and reverse. And then the imprint above LIBERTY is very odd. Thanks.