Moxie15

 I do not see what you are seeing. I collect french minor coinage and have noticed there are a profusion of machine doubling coins, so I think that is what you are probably seeing

12 hours ago, GoldFinger1969 said:

So is it worth anything ?

The dime itself does not carry a premium but the complete cellophane package has some value, but not huge.

“Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra,

5 hours ago, NevadaS&G said:

Of course the lesser Windmill coins would never be swapped out with a quality one. Even a toddler knows that

Well, you missed the point entirely, didn't you?

19 minutes ago, NevadaS&G said:

I know quite a few people that were scammed out of something Really Big recently, don't lecture me.

Not lecturing, Senior, but those giants you tilted sure look like windmills to the rest of us

34 minutes ago, NevadaS&G said:

NGC is usually on point, PCGS on the other hand is taking your coins home and grading them. It explains why my 1889 Morgan got swapped out with a lesser coin. Sending in something worth 20K or more and the Swap happens. Cost of living in California is Extreme. Desperate times call for Desperate Measures.

claiming they swapped your 20K coin for a lesser coin is dangerous unless you have solid proof. 

Do not remove it

My first question is why the ebay seller would not give the sister's name.  If he was willing to give part of the info, why would he refuse the rest unless he was making up a tale.

It could be the pictures but I am not sure it is genuine. If it is perhaps F15 to VF 20 at best

wonder who the expert was who pronounced it genuine. 

On 1/17/2021 at 10:18 PM, RWB said:

Counterfeit....note the smirk.

first thing I saw

Just now, Moxie15 said:

my guess is some private collector  who wishes to remain anonymous

corrected post below....nothing to see here

There were only 15 1804 dollars minted, and they are all accounted for. Any 1804 dollar you are likely to be offered to buy are fake

the 1804 is fake

the 1907 is likely real but is only worth about 10 cents

1811 does not look quite right to me 

3 hours ago, Tridmn said:

Sure they are some of the best. You dont hold the coin in your hand; look at details by eye and by microscope. I appreciate your honesty. However, without seeing the coin yourself and how each part of the doubling is the same height. You are unable to see full potential of coin. Perhaps it is MD. Does that make it less doubled?  Especially when all parts are equally as high as the counter? MD is still doubling. Do you disagre with that statement? If I send this coin to be graded and they say ddo and ddr, then what? Will you still disagree; or will you and others submit? If no ddo or ddr existed today, then please tell me how it still does. That isnt according to me, but experts. So, would you please tell me?

IF you send that coin to be graded and it comes back DDO or DDR then that grading service is worthless. That coin shows almost every diagnostic trait of being struck with a die that was not properly secured in the collet. MD or machine doubling is common and has no premium. It is akin to what a machinist calls chatter, the tool was not held tight against the work surface causing extra marks. With a die press the tool is die, the die is just slightly loose so it bounces slightly. This is more akin to a double struck than a double die.

The phenomenon is very common and has no premium. NOW IF you do not believe the  numismatists who have told you what it is, nor believe me because I am just a collector who collects for his own pleasure than go ahead and send your coin to our host.

1 hour ago, Tridmn said:

Do you not see how the double is the same height? Perhaps you need to see it personally. 1 press or 2 press; this is a double die. Not mechanical issues. Even if it were, that is a double. If it was an '82 you would call it doubling, correct? Because of 2 presses. I'm simply asking you to look closer and deeper than what you just may or may not glance at due to date. Same height, follows pattern of original letters or numbers. Very easy to see. Only look at pics before second date. Ty for observation sir.

I just don't get it. You have been informed by some of the best professional numismatists that it is not a doubled die yet you insist it is.  If it was a 1982 or an 1882 it would still be machine doubling. 

1 hour ago, VKurtB said:

Since there is no longer any precious metal in circulating coinage, the assaying process has lost its primary purpose, but the Brits still do an annual Trial of the Pyx annually, which is held in a courtroom with barristers in the full ostentatious wigs and robes. Gotta love the Brits for the sheer pointlessness of their ceremonies and rituals. 

tradition and history are extremely important to the British society. What we may see as pointless can be very important to them. 

spend it and move on. I see nothing on or about that dime that is worth keeping. If you think it is a DDO then go to variety vista and look for a match. 

1 hour ago, Bubblebling said:

Don't worry Moxie, I will figure all that out. Keep it up. People like you make me even more resolved to do well. 

The thing is, you guys are in a much different leauge than I am. If I come back and report that I made $20 last week, guys like you are going to say: Are you kidding? That isn't even worth it. But it would mean a lot to me. 

actually I would simply ask you what you spent to make that $20. Your answer to that question would dictate my next response.

15 hours ago, Bubblebling said:

Hi Moxie. Can you be more specific please? If I have erred, hopefully it is on the side of caution.

well, where should I start?

maybe here...

If you feel the need to post here and say what you did then you do not have enough knowledge to make money in coins.

if you do not know who is likely to buy and at what price they would likely pay how do you know what to pay?

who are your customers? where is your market?

You should send your stimulus to me, it will hurt less than what you have going here. 

So, what do you think it is?

The hub was pressed into the die steel once, so true double dies are impossible now.

Can you describe a process that would cause this that would show it is other than a form of machine or strike doubling?

3 hours ago, RWB said:

What was deleted?

that which would have appeared in that space......my comment, in other words.