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My guess for the price and no sales yet for the seller it's Got to be fake but for 26 I will take my chances. And by the way I believe I have found a missing piece of Government Property that I am bartering on but plan to return it if I can get the right price but not likely I will keep you posted! Wish me luck because it's priced at 4000 if I can get it for four hundred plus a hundred or so of my wheat pennies would be a dream come true to return the missing artifact and I know it could be fake but I'm trying because with the guy I'm dealing with he hates fake anything so good chance it's genuine. I will post pictures if I can manage to get it.

I wonder if I will get the exact coin the add doesn't specify.

What's 26 bucks plus shipping? Thanks MR.Bill347! I thought it looked like die 4.The line over the S and the price makes me feel foolish but for 26 dollars it will look nice in the unc folder.

Yeah your right I will avoid it Thanks JPM!

I will avoid it till I here it from you?

Is this an altered date 1909s cent? Notice the straight line on the top of the s and the bubble at the end of the bottom serif!

So here's a picture of something I'm working on I bought a coin book with coins in it 1909-1958 pds I thought but it goes to 1974 so i'm going through coin bags pulling all the 1959-1974 brown pennies to fill out the thing. I got most of the thirties except I had to sacrifice one of my 1931-s cents to put in it I bought a 1912-s cause I can't find mine I had a 1910-s found in change I have a few 1924-s mint marks and I just ordered about a dozen 1924-d cents at 30 a piece which was outrageous and about a dozen 1922-d cents a few of them look like p's or weak d's for like 150 bucks so that was cool all culls but it's better than using nice coins I shopped for a 1931-s but most have that altered s so I just used one of mine. I should be able to finish the 1959-1974 from the 1999-2010 coin box but if not I will go get another decade box of junk I kept to finish it I have them Its just hard to find brown I might have to search rolls because I usually throw the brown 1959-1974's back I have some saran wrapped rolls in boxes of just copper pennies that might make it easier from when I was a kid and thought to keep all the copper ones plus I can research them for 1982 copper small dates and put the rest back into change that I don't use. I was surprised this set had all the teens except 1914-d I've got lots of teens in rolls more than I can count and I might find a 1914-d in their you never know. I need help from an expert to get 1909-s vdb 1909 s and 1914-d because I don't want fakes in my set. Originally I planned on buying a roll of 1924-d cents from Ampex for 1000 dollars to increase the hoard but someone beat me to it. So I got like 11 at 30 a piece which sucks because I really wanted 50 at 20 a piece. Better Luck next time I guess. I wonder who the Luck one is that got that roll? I look for rolls but I often have to come up with the money and I was late finding it so I lost out darn it. What surprises me as I have only about a page of 1909 coins and only 1 1909 vdb un certified that I used to fill this set. I plan to expand my coin roll hunt this month do dimes try to find a silver 1965 or a clad 1964 dime. I bought 2 ms 67 1996 Westpoint dimes because my Westpoint dime disappeared in the move from Vermont to Oregon. I don't plan to collect them all but I did get a 1998-s silver dime for a dollar.My dad bought a Jefferson nickel folder for a buck at Hospice thrift so I will put what I find in nickels into it for fun.

I was sorting out a box of 1999-2010 coin roll finds that have been stashed away in the garage to see if they would change most are in coin bags or cases but I was shocked when I found my 2010 stash of coins I thought could be unicorn MS70's I know I don't know much I thought back then all you needed was a copy of the Sheldon coin grading scale from wikipedia to coin roll hunt for quality I still no nothing about cleaned coins or the ANA real grading standard I just used the guidelines with no pictures and now I try to use the Sheldon scale and get lost I simply had more patients back then now I use the Red Book Deluxe but anyway I found my coins from 13 years ago that I thought I lost in California I have a 2004-d,2005-d,2006-d,2007-d,2008-d and a 2010 p cents that I want to have certified by ANA. Here's a picture they are still in the bags and I always wore gloves. Now keep in mind I did forty boxes but never in Vermont or in Oregon only in Port Hueneme California did I ever think I found an MS70 they just look so velvety soft copper brilliant and no spots no hairline scratches no nothing full pillars and steps full hairline Lincoln just looks untouched. The way I spotted them was how they looked so bright and velvety clean from the rim looking at them in the roll like a bright band among other colored bands so I slipped them out to check them first then thumbed the roll. The rims were the dead give away they looked so even compared to color changing rims or partially shiny over bright rims these rims match in color velvety red. I hope the bags haven't damaged them they are bags from a coin shop the cheap 1.99 kind but the big bag is a .99 cent store variety so it could have pvc where the coin bags were poly something or other but thirteen years dang it feels like yesterday! Sorry about the bad picture I had to use my phone the sd card got wet when the tenet overflowed the bathtub cause she was smoking and forgot and my ceiling caved in and water went every where I hope my camera still works both my SD cards got wet. I currently live in the living room. So this was my coin find of the day still got to take my nickels back I tested negative for Covid on Christmas so I'm all better thanks Guys!

Awesome Find JPM congratulations and Happy Hunting And Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays too All you Guys. I'm taking a break from reading the Red Book to enjoy a new read another Red Book called A Guide Book of Lincoln Cents by Q. David Bowers. I find the topic more inviting and I have had the book a lot longer then the big Red book but I will return to the Big Red book intermittently like learning anything one book serves as the others break.

Cool find does the W stand for Westpoint?

If you look closely you can see cut marks from being inside the bezel because I kept turning it inside the bezel trying to free it up to the point that the rim has slight discoloration all around it kind of rainbow colored. On the obverse the cut marks scratched the rim up pretty deeply above trust and below the date.

Nice Mariana Islands Quarter! Now here's one for the possible fakes list a 1917 wheat metal found at a garage sale in a rusty steel bezel. My guess it's a china fake but a nice specimen if you like Exonomia how ever it is oversized by like a millimeter so it doesn't fit in a standard penny case it's rims are kind of fat and I had to use acetone to remove a spot of green corrosion near the bow tie so probably legal to own but why anyone would make a non-rare anything is a mystery. I save it because one I don't have a better one and two I like the Rinkles on Lincolns forehead even my 1909 doesn't have that. The reason I think its fake is because it has a rough surface on the back like tiny bubbles or evidence of spark erosion on the reverse. Their was only one spot similar to the spots on the reverse on the front of this coin nearest the tie and it was green and I removed it with acetone and a cue tip. You can't really see the spot removal in the raw but in a case you can kind of see the circular swirl mark. The rim is heavily damaged but looks just like a circulation strike except for the slight oversized metal plink it was made on. The first image shows the lite swirl mark and another slight bit of damage two dings on the shoulder of Lincoln and a scratch on the temple. I tried for hours trying to get this thing out of the rusty bezel I wore gloves but in some images you can see where the steel rubbed the rim so this has got excessive damage. The second two images make the metal look convincing however the next image clearly shows some bubbly imperfections but not bad for a garage sale find. I do want to own a real one some day but for now metal will do just fine to hold the space till some hoards-men can show me a book of nice specimens to choose from. I do have a worn out few in rolls but none that have any eye appeal.

The problem with this set of cards most of the good ones I saved my brother sold most of the All Stars years ago. We never had a Micheal Jordan Rookie card though. I got to keep the Admiral but the Shaquille O'Neal College cards he sold all those years ago to his best friend. People buying cars never learn. I bought my first car with $400.00 it was used but ran good. His first car he paid thousands for. Never pay full price for a car unless you plan to collect them! I would love to collect cars some day a 1963 split window coupe corvette or a 1980 automatic, or a 1968 Camaro. I don't like new cars they are to ugly. He left me all his baseball cards though but I just keep them in their cases I never got into base ball Much I do like the Babe Ruth book marker though it's around here somewhere I got it with my April 1944 numismatist magazine on flying eagles I keep it in a case because it looks very old but is a book marker I believe like a replica with a signature on the back of it the funny thing is I can't tell who wrote their name on it it doesn't look like a B in Babe Ruths name it looks like a cursive R like as in Rane. It's certainly not a baseball card I've never seen one that small like a business card. I got to find that sucker because I lost it when I was looking for my 1912-s cent and my 1927 popular mechanics birthday penny some time last week. If I wasn't so sick I would look for all of them they are in the living room but it's so full of stuff I can't find anything. I was thrilled when I found it in the pages because it had Babe Ruths Image on it and when I was in Little league and we had cards made I didn't know what to say when they asked me who my favorite base ball player was so I said Babe Ruth. I had no idea he wasn't still alive or that he played for the Boston Red Sox which was my favorite team because my ex-brother in Law liked the Red Sox. I always thought Babe Ruth was a Yankee from what my friend Dustin told me when I was a kid but not according to the book marker. Have you found any old cards lately or do you collect sports stuff? I still keep my Baseball card from little league but mom has them stashed away with the family photo albums. I used to collect Topps basketball cards but base ball is just not my sport I do have an Epiphone mandolin and dream of owning a Colling some day. I would strum it but my parents always say enough. It said certified by Forty and at the time I was in NMCB40 and just had to have it so I strum it as fast as I can and practice notes from you tube but I stopped because my parents asked me to stop playing it because it annoys them but I have never heard a more beautiful sounding mandolin quite like a Colling a Birds Eye I believe it was called by the guy who had it. I do remember asking If I could try it but I remember him saying it was a $14,000 piece of wood are you sure you can handle it and that's when I got shy and said no way! I break strings and the board on the base of mine a few times but I would have hated to have broken anything on that instrument.

I would rather have a Colling Birds Eye Mandolin!

Anybody remember these guys from their college days. All I know is mom waited in line at KB toys to buy the college cards for us because we watched College basketball. The truth is their is only one Mike and I don't have his rookie card.

We have one we call a barrel cent dad found out how it was made in the Library in a book on early American counterfeits its smaller then a large cent. No worries we got are coin buy the pound for the price of copper so we didn't get scammed or any thing it was super cheap and no guarantee on authenticity since the deal was all copper we even got a flying eagle token a real big one. I believe the token is a modern belt buckle token from Levi's.

sorry $2.87 is accurate not $2.84

Now this coin was definitely priced nicely to buy it however their is a deep scratch on Lincolns head visible under the loop. and a scratch through the wheat stalks. The last but not least fault of this coin is their is a frost all over the coin if you look at it with the light and the loop its an almost white green color. My other 1954 proof shows no known imperfections and has a bright red appearance however it has some cardboard dust from being in a case. I only paid .25 cents for the bright red coin whereas the coin in the image with the frosty look to it I paid $2.87 on ebay no complaints here on either one of the coins as they were both fairly priced however the red coin did come from a coin shop so the quality was far better with no frosty patina however both coins look better in pictures than in person so don't let the image fool you the coin is not perfect and the frosty look goes away in the light of the camera along with it's red opaque fields that disappear under the camera. I bought the coin because Lincolns bust front looks to be not fully struck and I like it it looks much different than a fully struck coin and is in my opinion a nice example.

I did not put insufficently thoughtful persons into my writing that's a total typo. I wonder if it's that Wondering character that posted over me in an old 2020 post?

I know my idea of buying 1982 copper small date cents unc rolls was a bad idea so I craigslist them at $5 a piece but the caller asked for a price reduction of 1.00 to buy one roll of unc detail coins and I told him these are not advertised unc detail they are red and I pre-searched them so they are red culls. He said oh I just want them because that's my birthday year and I press them with a coin press for elongated pennies to sell on etsy. I just hung up the phone. No need to feed sites that support China or support people that make junk from real us currency. Maybe the guys right 1 dollar is fair to buy 50 but not to somebody making fakes out of them.

Here's that Helvetica, it looks nice common change not worth anything but a saver for the foreign change book.

Tokens right tokens don't come with Federal penalties and Dad is retired Federal Officer so Father nose best but his nose is what got him to swipe that Helvetica from the kitchen counter and into his books before I could take pictures. Nothing special about it but it would have been nice to take a picture it had a pretty obverse. Here's a picture of what I found in $200 worth of nickels. Some 1940's no silver nickels that Helvetica but it's out of the picture but I will find it it's in his safe somewhere. A few 1950's a one 1939 nickel one 1909 cent one 1932-d cent and one more 1944 "Spielmarken" or token rusty old thing at least I think it's another one of those it looks rusty but that could be copper corrosion from being in the ground we got to clean up so can find my magnet. So this coin roll hunt had one success the 1909 cent because it's a first found of that date but I have found one more rare in the past a cleaned 1910-s. I just checked with a magnet from the fridge its copper 1944 false alarm. This will be my last coin hunt of the year due to quarantine. All my appointments are on hold till end of quarantine. I need to find more sources for change I would like to have like $500 worth on back up to go through an hour a night on work days and all day on day off. I didn't find any key date nickels so I will roll them for a rainy-day trade off. I did however find a coworker who wants my help to decifer a value of her great Grandfathers estate supposedly 3 safes full of rolled and certified cased stuff in folders. She said he has Susan b Anthonys and walking lady liberties and moon medals and proof setts. I told her it sounds like junk but I will bring my red book and see what I can do to find prices on some stuff. She just wants to do something with them other then turn the coins into the bank. My guess she would probably except a dollar above face value a roll but they would have to be good rolls actually worth something. Clad dollars certified may have value to some one but not me. I figure help her get ebay set up and take pictures for her and see what sells it's going to cost me my sleep after all the quarantine of course but for my time I hope she's not greedy because I helped some one sell his trade dollars one time in Vermont and he didn't give me or offer to sell me nothing no free Lunch no nothing biggest waist of time ever. I guess I will never learn no good deed goes unpunished but I'm prepared for that this time but she's the lead Chef so hopefully help ends up a home cooked meal with the family.

I do wish I could get one of those 1859 flying eagles by Daniel Car but I'm afraid dear old Dad wants to here nothing of it because that's all play money in his mind. I like them they are really nice medals but the stuff I keep finding is all because of the exonomia club here in town they drop lots of stuff in change even fake foreign money like pounds that were never made. I made the mistake of getting nickels this time around and I think the teller had Covid because I just caught it today. I did find a Helvetica money in the nickels but I still got to do a little research to find out if its from the exonomia people or legitimate money. The exonomia people here definitely out number the coin hobbyists. The Magic gamers outnumber everybody. Seriously the college walmart break room the hospital at night the bars they are literally everywhere even at the At&T store they all play and collect magic cards theirs like five shops but only one coin shop. The exonomia club is private but they conference with the womens right to work folks so they buy,sell and trade at fire stations and infront of the police department all fake stuff folders full of junk mostly kids from the Highschool. The Pawn Shop doesn't want those kind of people around like outcasts to them but I don't blame them that stuff is bad for business. I like my piece of junk 1909 it's my first but my real first wheat penny was found out to be a 1927 popular mechanics manufacturers penny a birthday penny for people born in 1927 it has no rim and is lightweight and black but it's my first wheat penny. I misplaced it when I was cleaning up the house but I will find it one of these days. Are house is small but kind of a mess their is boxes of non-perishable food stacked up everywhere energy drinks boxes of cokes seltzer canned goods wine all from the free food days. I Love Oregon man In Vermont we struggled just to stay warm and coin roll hunting is when you could spare the money but not in Oregon bills are like 300 a month and the rest is savings. I don't miss cutting down tree's all summer and getting ticks fleas and mosquito bites from the woods. I do miss the clean fresh air though Vermont's got some of the healthiest green forests and I miss building the igloo and starting a fire to cook the meat. I wood never shoot a dear in Oregon dainty little things probably to tiny to bleed out but in the East the young tender spike horn is delicious. Dad's right though focus on collecting real coins from antique dealers and such. I did get a real good deal on ebay though I used promo codes from ampex,groupon,and paypal to get about 500 in semi key date wheat cents I didn't have all to fill a set all except 1914-d and 1909 svdb and 1909-s which are the real key dates. I figure I will get the three through trade I just found a dealer who supplies all four antique shops with random stuff coins included. He says alot of his stuff comes from Idaho and oregon He buys out estates and lets stuff go for enough to pay a small salary whatever that means. He says he will keep me in mind for buying rolls of old pennies but can't make promises on gold or silver as that stuff comes with two paydays one at the time he gets it to the dealer and again when all his stuff sells. He mostly consigns stuff and if it doesn't sell he refunds the money and takes it to storage and then uses public party and craigslist to get rid of it. I got 10 1926-s buffalo nickels to go with the one I got from the antique shop but I paid a pretty penny I'm afraid 25 a piece but thats what it's gonna take to build my credit back after no spending for a year. I can't wait to find out what kind of coins my brother is send all foreign antique money but I gotta send him some of the wine and parmesano Reggiano though because we got alot and I don't drink the stuff but I love me some parm. It ain't all foot loose and fancy free in Oregon though we got a huge homeless population they sometimes crash in the yard or the side garden and I gotta bring them a meal and a soda. I just look for them when I'm Craiglisting I got one I gotta help she is new to Newport and asking for bottle money because she spent her money on rent and got a few items from the shelf but Christmas is coming and her sons coming home for Christmas. She has had a job for two weeks but thinks that will just go to next months rent. I would share some food but Newport is to far away besides my buddy gets a discount on gift certificates to lots of shops because he works at Walmart and the Hospital where I work. I think safe way and Walmart is good though they are in Newport. I can't imagine if I was still in the service and coming home for the first time and their was no food in my mommas fridge. She says she's got serial and milk and stuff but that's not real food. I gotta give back like people did for me when I was a Sea Bee. People were always real nice in the Sea Bee's they would give half a sandwich if you ran out of money or couldn't go to the Galley on time due to projects, or had no money because uniform allowance was to little to re-up to a new uniform. In Mississippi those people new how to Party and feed everybody everything was cheap though 8.00 all you can eat at Chong's Garden and 1.50 a pitcher of beer at the cabana or the bee spot. All the semi key dates I got came from my pay pal account because I sold one of those fakes I found some years back as a fake some years back it surprised me the money was still in the account after so long it was amazing. So in all reality's sake I paid one cent to get 1923-s,1926s,1915-s,1912-s because I left my 1912-s somewhere in the garage and can't find it, 1914s,1927s 2 rolls of those, 1911s,1913s, and 1926d. Now all I got left to collect is 1909 s vdb, 1909-s and 1914-d. My guess is my book of g4 flying eagles my 1932p's my 2009 copper satins my 2000 wide am's and my g4 indian heads are all bait to get the 1909 s vdb but I wouldn't trade the best of the best and I will definitley use ngc and pcgs coin facts to find an authentic. So what's everybody finding or buying any rare rolls of stuff?

Never mind on that last question I just read Wharton bought a mine in 1863 long after flying eagle production.

Do you have any information on Joseph Wharton's involvement in the production of metal for making flying eagles?