MarkFeld

That’s true. But it would be the case even if he had shown the obverse slab with the coin number before the coin was cracked out. Since you never showed the obverse slab with coin number before it was cracked out.

Whether you agree with his thinking or actions, he hasn’t given any indication that he’s been other than honest.

She’s not but I still appreciate it.

I'm trying to help determine a fair price to pay for an XF example and an AU example, as well as any recommended sources. Many thanks.

They might have or the spot might have developed after the coin was encapsulated. So I wouldn't conclude anything from the spot. Based on the images of the coin and the holder, I don't think there's anywhere near enough proof to determine that the holder was opened and the coin, switched. I'd just return it and state that the holder has been damaged - presumably you didn't see photos of that before buying the coin - and that the coin isn't what you were expecting, either. I wouldn't make any accusations or ask any questions.

Last I heard, as of a long time ago, it was no longer free to have contaminants removed. I hope I heard wrong.

As was already posted by someone else, the coin probably did not look like that at the time it was graded and encapsulated.

Nice cop-out. Thank you.

Your original post, to which I replied and have copied below, didn’t mention “the dealer”. I would have taken that to mean the seller and would have agreed with you. But instead, you wrote “an authorized NGC dealer” and I don’t known how an authorized NGC dealer would have helped. Likewise, I don’t think the PVC problem is covered by NGC’s guarantee, so doubt that their customer service could help. So I’ll repeat the question I asked you previously - under the circumstances, what good do you think that would have done? “Did you contact Customer Service? NO! Did you take it to an Authorized NGC Dealer? NO! Just another NGC Baad post. “

Under the circumstances, what good do you think that would have done?

In that case, if at all possible, return it for a refund. If not, I’d crack and rinse it.

I think it would be a waste of money to have it graded.

If you can’t trust NGC because of PVC on a coin in one their holders, you can’t trust any grading company. That happens on occasion. If it were my coin, I’d crack it out, remove the PVC and sell it. The good news is that, in or out of the holder, the value of the coin s more than it was several months ago.

It could.

That looks like an environmental issue, not an error.

Welcome to the forum. What makes you think you have one? Images would be of considerable help.

Agreed, but there are still a surprising number of legitimate/unintentional Proof coin errors.

I don’t see that happening and many owners don’t insure their coins. I get the sense that there are more coins out there then you’re thinking.😉

It wouldn’t matter. Countless owners wouldn’t bother to register their coins even if it didn’t cost them anything.

Certainly, not nearly all of the below linked coins would have been in sets, but some of them would have. https://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=51+330+790+231&Ntk=SI_Titles&Nty=1&Ntt=proof&limitTo=all

I disagree. In a great many cases, attribution of the the error (and grading by a major grading company) will add value and make such a coin far more liquid.

And yet, they exist, so others have seen them, both in and out of their original packaging.

Typically, contact marks with other coins and normal circulation marks are treated differently than conspicuous scratches, gouges, etc., or marks (such as graffiti) that look as if they were applied intentionally. Again, I’d be very surprised if magnification were required to see a scratch on a details-grade, scratched coin. Under normal circumstances, that shouldn’t be the case.

It likely wouldn’t be in the best interest of grading companies to put an end to re-grades. I’m not saying that they should have their way, but I expect that they’ll get it. Either way, that wouldn’t put an end to counterfeits and stolen goods. The great majority of counterfeits aren’t currently (and wouldn’t in the future) be submitted for grading. And any stolen goods that are in holders can be removed from them and then sold.

If a coin receives a details-grade due to a scratch, you shouldn’t need magnification to see the offending flaw. Images of one such example might help. There’s usually a noticeable difference between normal bag-marks and a scratch that’s severe enough to result in a details-grade. And that’s whether the coin is a Morgan dollar or any other type.