MarkFeld

Welcome to the forum. Ths grading tier is chosen based upon the the value you estimate for the coin, as well as the turnaround time and in some cases, the type of coin being submitted. If you can post images or provide information about the coin, that would be helpful.

Neither the NGC nor the PCGS published standard for the grade of 70 requires perfection. For example, this is from NGC’ website: What is a 70? NGC defines a Mint State or Proof 70 coin as having no post-production imperfections at 5x magnification.

You won’t get the coin for $20.

“UNC” and “MS” should mean the same thing - uncirculated - so using both terms is redundant. But if you’re going to do that, you should at least value them the same. And how did you come up with the rest of your pricing?

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Clearly, there are and have been plenty of bad bullion dealers. But ditto for coin dealers and dealers in other fields, too.

We don’t know what the coin looks like or what others would think of it. I didn’t suggest anything - I mentioned the realities of the marketplace. And unlike you, I’m not going to judge PCGS or the coin, as I haven’t seen it.

Regardless of what JA thinks of it, if the owner of the coin offered it for sale at the going rate for an average MS64 example, it would likely sell. That’s because enough people have confidence in PCGS’s opinion for the coin to be liquid at the assigned grade. Consequently, the owner is not “stuck”.

Curiously, what led you to that idea about bullion dealers ?

Maybe the TPG didn’t screw up and it’s unlikely that the owner is “stuck”.

Any advice for becoming a dealer at coin shows?

Any advice for becoming a dealer at coin shows?

If you believe that after a certain point, “grading became much more strict in order to keep prices high...”, how do you explain the obvious gradeflation over a period of many years, which has been apparent to so many market participants? And often (if not usually) that gradeflation has led to lower, not higher prices. Your viewpoint has been largely contradicted by grading, population reports and prices.

Depending upon the show, the cost for a table/tables can be hundreds or even many thousands of dollars.

I don’t even consider it a matter of right or wrong, when assessing cons from images. We’re limited by what we’re presented with.

None of us will be grading your coins, so you’re wasting your time trying to convince us of anything. That’s especially true when assessments must be made based upon images.

Fair enough. When I had my own business, I declined to do business with certain dealers, based on their business practices. So maybe our views aren’t that different.

My disagreement wouldn't be any different if I were a collector. I’ve been a collector, off and on for decades, worked with collectors for 40 years and can easily see things through the eyes of a collector. Clearly, many dealers aren’t professional and don’t deserve respect. But I wouldn’t respect a dealer less for departing a show early (again) as long as he hadn’t agreed to remain the entire time. There are plenty of respectable dealers who leave shows early, just as there are others who stay the entire time, who might be less worthy of respect.

Thank you. I feel as though I don’t really have much of an idea regarding what the 67 looks like.

What about the MS67 looks nicer to you?

That looks better, but I can’t unsee what I saw in the previous images and it still looks a bit off to me.😉 Perhaps the color is fine - I hope so. Best of luck.

Obviously, I’m not viewing the coin in hand, but the color of both sides looks off in the pictures. And many recolored coins look plenty bright/lustrous.

I have no issue with the suggestions in your first two paragraphs and my approach has nothing to do with “dealer is dominant”. My approach pertains to what dealers sign up for when they purchase tables. And their right to conduct their business as they choose, as long as they adhere to their agreements, including any applicable code of conduct. A bourse should be intended for the benefit of both collectors and dealers, as they’re each somewhat dependent upon the other.

A few opinions...Based on the images of the 1886, my guess is 66. I wouldn’t bother to try to compare it to the already-graded MS67, which could look noticeably different and better in hand. The color of the 1855 cent looks off to me. I hope I’m wrong, but it looks recolored/QT. The 1898 cent looks RB, not RD. Best of luck with the submission.

Some shows have come up with (what I think are pretty good) ways of dealing with potential empty tables when dealers leave, prior to the end of the show. As one example, some sell one-day tables at discounted rates.