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44 minutes ago, Mc10139 said:

Double mint mark or S over D?

I'd go with Die Chip since the 5 and the S both exhibit the blob.  Not as exciting as an RPM but a sign of extended die usage.

35 minutes ago, Render222 said:

Vkurtb ,if i would have none people like you were part of this organization.i would have never became a member..i have watched you be little other people on here an be rude to others..you are not the greatest coin guy in the world.so get off your high HORSE.if you cant say anything with out being rude just keep your comments to your self..most of us didnt pay to be a member to deal with you.. Dont reply to anymore of my stuff or this. Cuz i dont want to here it.

He's dry but I don't think he was trying to be rude.  I actually found the 'down goes Frazier' remark quite funny.  But he gets tired of saying that microscopes aren't a necessity in numismatics and tend to do more harm than good.  Essentially, they let us see very minute details which are not meant to be dissected.  Did you know the standard magnification used by a grading company is 7x?  Anything beyond that can be misleading.

btw...the forums here are free.  Personally I haven't paid for a membership to NGC though I do have direct submission privileges due to the ANA membership.  Roughly the same price as NGC associate level with a monthly magazine thrown in.  w00t!

Looks like rub on the high points of the laurel wreath and curls.  I'm not sure it'd get an MS grade.

3 hours ago, VKurtB said:

What would a modern cent look like if you just leisurely rubbed it back and forth over 80 grit sandpaper while watching "Big Bang Theory"? It would look like this coin. Simple.

Ya know, I was thinking about the multitude of "is this an error" questions and most generally the result of circulation wear.  I've gone out of my way to purchase some late 1800s circulated pieces in poor condition.  Got this "nice" seated liberty quarter where one side has no details left and the reverse only shows the faintest hint of "QUAR.DOL" at the bottom.  There's no polishing or grinding marks on it so I like to imagine it achieved most wear through circulation, and being a softer silver composition that was easier achieved.  Anyhow....what if people these days getting into coins out of curiosity are just not familiar with honest circulation wear any longer?  I mean, even I rarely carry cash unless it's a half dollar/IKE/SBA I want to drop as a tip somewhere.  So most coinage isn't getting subjected to the same beating that anything prior to 1990 did (best guess for when debit cards started seeing usage increased).

I don't know.  Just a theory why such common circulation beatings are mistaken for errors.

Start by using a coin minted the same year and same facility as your comparison piece.  Would still most likely be different dies used but at least a sense of similarity.  The "softer" features I would chalk up to circulation wear as it looks to be worn to me.

2 minutes ago, Ratzie33 said:

Are you Mr. Weinberg in the flesh? It would be an honor, no sarcasm intended, if you are.

No.  But if it's his opinion only that'll sway you then you should contact him.  Otherwise, posting on a public forum looking for affirmations of your hypothesis and discounting opinions that don't fit your view is pointless.

BTW, DWLange = David Lange  I'm pretty sure he knows a little something about varieties and mint errors as well.

11 minutes ago, Ratzie33 said:

If Mr Weinberg tells me it isn’t so I will throw up my white flag. But do not rule out the possibility.

Address:
Fred Weinberg & Co
16311 Ventura Blvd.Suite #1298
Encino, California 91436

Email: fred@fredweinberg.com
Phone: (818) 986-3733
Toll Free: (800) 338-6533

Nah fam.  That's not how it works.

I'll let somebody more experience with Morgans comment on whether it's worth grading but, as a rule of thumb, whenever you see superlatives hand-written all over the flip like that it's a sure sign the seller is trying to hype up the coin for more than it's worth.  Think of all the flashing neon signs and arrows pointing to a "GREAT DEAL YOU JUST CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT" kind of thing.  I know there's an eBay dealer that does this quite often but I haven't paid attention lately.

Let the coin do the talking and not the seller's comments.

What am I missing?  Paying those things off and these 2 very normal looking pennies are unrelated events, right?

But congrats on paying off those loans.

On 9/14/2019 at 9:43 AM, numisport said:

CDN prices are meaningless to me because I'm not a dealer. And since I rarely sell to dealers and fully expect to pay more for coins with great eye appeal why bother with such irrelevant pricing information. These price lists do not accurately reflect values for my coins, they only serve to guide a dealer in acquiring great coins at lowball prices. 

Way to miss the point there, buddy.  Whether you refer to CDN prices or not the podcast is more about numismatics, currency collecting, trends in the hobby, and interviews with prominent people.

On 9/15/2019 at 2:11 AM, Conder101 said:

More likely just some form of toning.

I can vouch for this.  I bought a collection this year that included some OBW rolls of 2006 and many of them, especially those on the end, had a golden hue for toning.

12 hours ago, Just Bob said:

I took a trip to my local Ollie's this evening, hoping to score a few books that I did not have. All they had was the Guidebook to Shield and Liberty Head Nickels, which I already have.

OK, I definitely need to check it out this weekend.  They just expanded to the DFW area within the past 10 months so I've never actually walked into one yet.  Saw one in Baltimore last year on a "boy's trip" to see the Ravens-Browns game and my brother was going on and on about how awesome the store was but he never mentioned numismatic books.

The DDR is much more difficult to discern on circulated buffalo's.

I do like the designs.  I rarely come across any worth purchasing on a budget.  Somewhat interested in the story behind the counterstamps on the reverse of the Stone Mountain design.  Sold a Stone Mountain & Lexington raw at auction a few months back for more than I thought they'd go for so there's interest there.  Both were AU condition, no toning.  Got a Huguenot off at NGC for grading now that has a really great strike and clean fields but still, no toning.

Just heard a podcast from 2018 with an Albanese interview and read another interview article of him dated this month.  In both interviews he found the time to mention he thinks the market for early silver commems is inflated.  So I don't know.  I like them, but it's not a series I've spent much time on.

Could you clarify if NCS continues to encapsulate them?

I presume NCS slabs would not qualify competitive sets.

This is the point where you tell us you sold it on Etsy and are now retiring to your private island off the coast of Baja.

...For not telling me that CDN has a podcast??  I've generally got the news playing in the background while I'm here at work but a coin & currency podcast is a nice little break.

https://www.greysheet.com/

So I don't have to but I'm trying to track down a Details grade 1916 DDO for my registry set.  Without breaking the bank.  I can find examples of PCGS & ANACS graded with the "Acid Etched"/"Acid Treated" attribution.  Just not seeing any NGC graded examples.  I didn't see the condition on the full list of exclusions for why a coin could not be encapsulated but I may have overlooked it.  https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/6436/

There's an article from years ago regarding encapsulating in an NCS holder here.

I found a picture of one on Heritage Auctions in an NCS holder but it's an older version and I can't get the certification number to come up with results.  

https://coins.ha.com/itm/buffalo-nickels/1918-7-d-5c-acid-etched-ncs-xf-details/a/442-384.s

If I were able to find one in an NCS holder would that qualify for the competitive registry sets?  What if I were to submit one, would that end up in an NGC or NCS holder?

What about the nickels treated with the vinegar/peroxide solution?  Do those get an environmental damage attribute or something similar?  Seen a few in holder that appear that way but not sure.

Thanks for your time.

Alright, agreed.  I zoomed in a bit more on the details coin and definitely large letters version.  I may have been mistaking the serif on the A for dirt first time around.

Looks like small letters variety to me as well though that description is flipped.  Small Letters = gap between A&M; Large Letters = almost touching.  A better picture would be needed to confirm but the "feet" of the M appear to match the small letter variety M from what I can tell.  

References:

https://www.usacoinbook.com/coins/271/small-cents/flying-eagle-cent/1858-P/small-letters/

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plus/united-states/cents/flying-eagle-cents-1856-1858/12021/

1 hour ago, ldhair said:

Next should be any coin dated 1824 or any Bust Half.

My bad.  Just re-read the rules and where you said Type or Year I misread it as Denomination or Year.

That's not how you play the game @Trevor40

Putting a newer half dollar back up to get some fresh blood in the game.

Oh, wait.  We're only ~282 away from a cert number of 4748474 which would be considered pretty cool for notes.  

33 minutes ago, Mathpark1981 said:

I'm pretty sure you have to designate what you want NGC to verify. Of course that was over 10 years ago so that may have changed

Got it.  I didn't notice that.  But now I'm trying to figure out slabs & numbers.  I know from personal submissions the digits ahead of the hyphen is the invoice number.  Those after the hyphen is the coin's place within the submission.  Yours shows to be invoice 1,821,938 (6th coin on the submission form) but it's in a new generation holder.  I would've presumed that invoice number low enough to be in an old soap bar fatty.  Even looking at this great post by Conder there's an old holder for reference and the invoice number is higher than yours (the 1923 Peace Dollar).  

Now, there is the direction not to re-use an invoice if you print it.  I've always done the online submission form.  I wonder if it's possible to print off, say 1000 invoices right now simply to reserve the next 1,000 numbers in sequence and actually complete the submission whenever you like.  We're in the 4 millions now.  The submissions I just sent Saturday end at 4748192.  It'll be a while before there's a "cool number" available but theoretically you could try to get to 5000000 and submit all your coins under that submission.