Zebo

Mike - too much information!!!   On the bidding of course.

The OPs pattern is very nice. Didn’t mean to detract from it.

Just another take off of the Australian Holey Dollar of 1813 or others that may have preceded it. The question is - where is the dump?

It depends how you slice and dice it. World? Modern or ancient? Actual mint or just location. Legally  minted I hope. 

On 3/28/2024 at 10:40 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Did anyone pick up anything at the latest ANA auction?

I walked away with the complete set of Numismatic Review booklets, some copies of the New Zealand Numismatic Journal, and missed out on a few other lots. 

I was bidding on the book below but was sniped at the end, I was really hoping to win this one.  Congratulations to the winner whomever they may be. 

 

Do you know what it went for?

Rats - never even looked. The last few auctions didn’t hold much of interest for me, but I would of bid on that book as well.

On 3/26/2024 at 3:07 PM, mlovmo said:

Just wondering if NGC will be taking submissions at the May 2024 Central States Show.

If this inquiry is in the wrong place, I apologize...

I saw that they would be there, so they will be accepting submissions - but no on-site grading I believe.

On 3/26/2024 at 1:44 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Hmmm.....everything I have read with global trade -- including lots of Roger's stuff -- implies U.S. coins were dominant or at least co-equal with British coins.  All these other countries were hoarding U.S. coins and DEs, not sovereigns for the most part.

OTOH...when James Bond needed gold coins in his briefcase in "From Russia With Love" they did put 50 gold Sovereigns !! 

Some Central banks (Governments) maybe - not by the populace and not around the world. 

On 3/26/2024 at 9:54 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Was counterfeiting a problem 120 years ago ?  I thought that's why U.S. gold coins were so universally accepted.  

1907 they weren’t universally accepted or known. Even in the forties during World War II, some flight crews (Army Air Corp) were given sovereigns and (for QA - even a rooster) in escape kits in case they were shot down behind enemy lines. This was because they were much better recognized than U.S. gold at the time. These kits were produced by the Navy in Norfolk, Virginia.

Don’t be discourage, once you know that the vast majority of what is on the internet and YouTube is complete garbage and what the politicians and government tell you is just a load of …., then you can start fresh. Pick up a copy of Whitman’s cherry-pickers guide and start enjoying collecting and hunting again. Or forget the varieties and errors and start a type or comprehensive collection. Many was to play - just don’t expect to become rich from it.

On 3/22/2024 at 11:53 AM, RWB said:

Zebo -- I understand the argument and historical context. However, without a statement of nominal value on the piece, it is merely a bullion token and not technically protected from counterfeiting. The same applies to any other coin-like item and is a primary separator of medal/token from coin.

I still disagree, nominal value or no nominal value on the coin isn’t relevant to being technically protected from counterfeiting.

By the way, welcome to the NGC forum ZAR. Glad to have you here.

On 3/22/2024 at 9:29 AM, RWB said:

The crown-size pieces have no denomination and are properly classed as commemorative medals. Sovereigns (with a few exceptions) are gold bullion pieces with no fixed legal tender value. They are no more coins than any other undenominated bullion. Just an opinion.

I disagree Roger, the sovereigns do have a standard legal tender value of one pound, but no one would sell them at that price because the gold content value is much higher. Sovereigns circulated as legal tender coins for over a century. That is the modern sovereign and does not count the hammered sovereigns which are much older. Just because a coin does not state a denomination on them, does not make them a token or bullion coin. Sovereigns became bullion in England circa 1917 when they were not released for circulation any longer and were used strictly to pay war debts. They did still circulate outside England for some years after England stopped producing them for circulation. Sovereigns were also legal tender in Portugal even though Portugal was not part of the British empire. The world accepted the sovereign as circulated legal tender coins and later as bullion. 
 

The below book, is an excellent first read on the subject. Many others out here as well:

On 3/19/2024 at 1:43 PM, zadok said:

...they r not so political...very much pro-history of US coinage n at least understand that there is no hobby if there r no collectors....

Exactly. 

On 3/19/2024 at 11:22 AM, VKurtB said:

ANS? The folks in New York City?

Yep

So Kurt, what do you think of the ANS? And thank you for your thoughts on the new position. I missed some of the conversation.

On 3/16/2024 at 9:33 AM, Henri Charriere said:

Hold-up-wait-a-minute...

How would you know he was recently ousted recently, unless, unless...  

concerning the proposal for the new position, I would expect some good input from Kurt. I did not see or hear about him being ousted. What is that all about - if I couldn’t guess?

For one thing, politics aside, I would like to hear about the presentation or discussion about this new position. I heard most of it, but the person/s speaking (Ken and Kenny) microphone was a bit too far away to hear everything.

On 3/15/2024 at 3:17 PM, Coinbuf said:

From your opening post it seemed like you were in attendance.   I am not there and haven't seem or heard any of the meeting.   Hopefully someone can add more to the story. 

I attended virtually.

On 3/15/2024 at 1:39 PM, Coinbuf said:

So that's all we get, a teaser and a comment with no refrence to context or content?

That’s it for the moment. I am hoping that others that attended or viewed will chime in.

the community manager is a new proposed full time staff position that would have as part of their duties be involved with outreach, videos, and social media. It would enhance visibility to those who normally do not see the ANA when searching on the internet. A nigher profile in other words.  that is just a bit of it. I did not catch the whole discussion.

I would like to hear from those who attended in person.

Interesting ANA Board of Governors meeting today.
 

I thought the idea of a community manager is a good one.

On 3/14/2024 at 11:52 AM, VKurtB said:

Is that adjunct or “add junk”? As in road rash coins saved because “they’re different”.

One man’s junk is another man’s treasure….  It’s all history baby! 👀