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Dan your story is well written but heart breaking to read as well. As others have said most of us have family or know someone who has these problems. You have brought light to a problem we have within our family as well. I hope you can move on from this chapter of your life. 

Marks in the neck area would have struck out and likely is post mint damage.

Many different Buffalo mint mark varieties are known. Check out David Lange's book on Buffalo Nickels.

Usually good reasoning prevails at the TPGs especially on the 35-D. The step up to 67 from 66+ on this one could be a 10k difference.

Mine should be MS 67 too but NGC doesn't think so and CAC thinks it's a solid or 'A' quality 66.

I also think my 1935 should be 67 as well but again they don't think so. 

The only top pop 73-S clad graded so far as Pf 69 Star Ultra Cameo

White spot in obverse field was on the plastic and is gone now after coin was reholdered

Sounds like Bankers hours.  

Oh I see the half Saturday gets them past 40 hrs.

Yes I would like a good reference source on Trade Dollars. However I'm not so concerned with die varieties, more so what original skin should look like on higher grade circulated pieces. Some collect damaged (chop marked) coins but I don't consider those even slightly comparable to original straight grade pieces. Look at how few NGC/PCGS graded AU 55 coins there are, many of which are cleaned but not noted as such. Then see how very few get that CAC or CACG grade. The numbers are small to say the least attesting to the true scarcity of original unmolested pieces. One interesting note is that nice San Francisco mint coins seem to be available even though many were lost to Asian trade. It's just a cool series to collect but unfortunately I can't afford uncirculated coins. 

On 4/13/2024 at 1:41 AM, Captain Murder said:

Makes sense. My submission I just got back and my morgans from last January look like they were graded once, quickly, give generic grades with no second opinion for superlatives such as high levels of sparkles in the Wreaths, star quality and percentage of high quality stars to overall number, etc. NgC grading is worth the money, but a lot of grades are unfairly low and it's not worth resubmitted. 

NGC should also Buy and Sell Coins.

So glad that NGC does not deal in coins. For years PCGS showcased their Board of Experts who are generally PCGS only dealers which to me is a huge conflict of interest.

On 4/27/2024 at 6:49 PM, Henri Charriere said:

 There is only one reason why ALL slabs cannot be housed in one universal box.  And I find that reason to be anti-social, anti-ethical, illogical and personally repugnant. As a matter of fact, I am going to stick my neck out and show my true colors. What some term competition goes way beyond that when there is no one anyone can appeal to, to review your case, and walk away with the satisfaction that your grievance was pored over by experienced professionals who rendered a rational decision in good faith -- which is why, for example, Federal judges are lifetime appointees.  I have seen too many cases where the aggrieved was forced to submit to the wills of others who function in complete anonymity and have their way for no other reason than because they can.  There is something rotten in the state of Denmark and a good part of the problem is a reluctance of collectors (or retirees, in good standing) to raise the hue and cry.  I believe I have said it before and I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.  MONEY IS NOT EVERYTHING AND IT IS NOT MONEY BUT THE LOVE OF MONEY THAT IS THE ROOT OF ALL PEOPLE!  Should I manage to come into a sizeable bit of money, theoretically possible but highly implausible, I will not be accepting congratulations.... only condolences. I will dedicate every fiber of my being to making the crooked paths straight for all who have been wronged -- a subject which has been assiduously avoided by a sizable number of people who, for for various reasons, have been cowed into silence.

(Posted at the discretion of Moderation and Top Management which walks softly but carries a Big Stick.)

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Let me offer my condolence ahead of time for I believe that you sincerely want to right the numismatic society of its wrongs and are doing so without that chunk of money you are due !

On 3/28/2024 at 2:48 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Any new thoughts on CACG grading ? 

Here it is now April 27th and I have my first CACG slab. Most of my slabbed coins have CAC stickers so I thought I would pick up a nice original Trade Dollar in AU 55. Coin stands on its own merits with nice original skin and only slight circulation rub. Optical grade slab is nice looking but although roughly the same size as PCGS slabs, its really thick and wont fit in a PCGS box. 

Check out this comparison to other slabs. CACG slab is roughly same size as PCGS slab but much thicker while roughly same thickness as NGC slab but not the same size. Of course ANACS is just different.

On 2/15/2024 at 4:32 PM, NeverEnoughCoins09 said:

Thank you, I didn't get too much info from it other than price guide and inaccurate census. I did just see one that was a Proof 65 CAC go for almost $2500 listed though wow.

Any of these proof Walkers with cameo contrast will bring multiples of price guide values.

On 2/15/2024 at 4:37 PM, NeverEnoughCoins09 said:

Beautiful coin!!! Ouch makes mine and the one I'm looking at like spare change..

I don't know what you do for a living but you must be able to afford it or have really good connections. Congrats again on that fine specimen!! Definitely jealous 

Do you have a registry?

You can view my registry sets that include NGC images. I am a man of modest means but admit I paid premium money for nice deep mirrored spot free coins. All of my '36 to '42 proof coins have been CAC verified either by me or were already CAC when I purchased them. I understand NGC no longer recognizes them but mine are grandfathered from earlier days. I cannot give an explanation for this decision but can only surmise that it is motivated by legal challenges from outsiders.

Here is my Pf 67 piece which is how I like them. Nicer coins do exist but higher grade more expensive examples often are 3 to 4K and are often toned or hazy. This one is a deeply mirrored frosty coin but not quite cameo, and is very scarce as such.  coin 

On 2/15/2024 at 3:58 PM, NeverEnoughCoins09 said:

Good ole@RWB would appreciate that. I'm sure it's a good read. I will look into it .

Do you think $385 is a good buy for this particular piece? Asking since you have obtained one yourself.

I'm assuming your fond of Walkers? I do have one 1944 MS65 maybe I should hold off and put the money towards another piece that is different to add. Unless the price is too good to pass up for this one? 

Pictures/lighting suck its much better in hand with some colorful toning just wish I didn't have those two black spots meh.

 

An NGC Pf 65 coin would be a good deal at that price. Pf 63 or 64 may still be a reasonably good buy. In a few minutes I will post mine.

On 2/10/2024 at 6:40 PM, FlyingAl said:

Fire away!

A few drafts have been in the works, but I want to be sure the final draft answers all the questions out there.

Can't wait for your finished presentation. Also would like to see in print your previous work on "36 to "42 cameo proof die pairing. My link to that no longer works. 

As you've probably already noticed ATS you can find an interesting post by Mark Feld about the origin of these so called "64 SMS coins right now.

On 2/15/2024 at 3:18 PM, NeverEnoughCoins09 said:

Your image shows decent obverse detail with a reverse die that has been polished a bit more thus missing that detail and otherwise a nice coin ! You really should pick up a copy of Roger Burdette's book 1936 to 1942 U.S.Proof Coins wiich explains the known die pairs in detail.

On 10/1/2023 at 9:05 PM, RWB said:

Thank you. So that's really 100 points vs 70 points, omitting the +  -  *  !!!!!!!! and LQQK stuff. The definitions are all guesses, with almost no empirical content.

Holy smokes looks like well struck coins start at 64. Now were gonna have to redefine WELL struck for all the thousands of Morgan and Peace dollars already graded in the past 35 years.......

Oh wait they wont cross ? Boy gemmy Buffalos are gonna look funny in 62 holders ! Sorry 9.2 holders ?

On 2/2/2024 at 5:42 PM, Sandon said:

  Here is your "credible explanation":

  See What is an Adjectival Grade? | NGC (ngccoin.com), where NGC explains, "For some bulk submissions, NGC will allow the submitter to request that only the adjectival grade be printed on the NGC certification label. This is generally done only for large submissions of relatively common coins. The coins must still meet NGC’s requirements for the numeric grade range for that adjectival grade. . ..  UNCIRCULATED is often paired with the additional qualifiers of BRILLIANT, CHOICE, or GEM. NGC considers BRILLIANT UNCIRCULATED to be any coins that would grade from 60-70 on the Sheldon Grading Scale. CHOICE UNCIRCULATED is considered to be any coins that would grade from 63 to 70. GEM UNCIRCULATED (sometimes indicated as GEM UNC or GEM BU) is used for coins that would grade from 65 to 70."

   Presumably, a bulk submission coin graded "UNCIRCULATED" would be a lower end mint state coin that would have been graded no higher than MS 62 if submitted for numerical grading. I understand that it would be scored as a "MS 60" in the NGC Registry.

   NGC has been offering this service for bulk submitters for some time. It is not uncommon to see Morgan and Peace dollars and modern issues in NGC holders with these adjectival grades.

What if it was actually Uncirculated details ?

On 1/21/2024 at 8:47 PM, VKurtB said:

I don’t think our federal trial judiciary has any shame left at all at this point. None that I can discern, anyway. The federal trial judiciary is so chock full of political hacks that it has lost just about ALL credibility. You pretty much have to get to the Supreme Court of the United States level before you get to see anyone worthy of respect in this country’s judiciary. Even the Courts of Appeals are frequently cruel jokes these days. 

Just completed my questionnaire for a Federal jury trial summons. I don't know how I could possibly keep a straight face during a federal trial knowing how deep the swamp really is ! What a joke. 

I've been called several times and have sat one local trial for State crimes but that is different I feel. I just don't think I could sit in front of a group of fruadsters at my expence just to render an opinion that is meaninless.

On 1/10/2024 at 10:23 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

I agree....but it now appears (I could be wrong here but don't think I am) that the CAC sticker on PCGS and NGC coins means that the coin was appropriate for the grade (A or B coin stickered) but is NOT guaranteed to cross at the same grade into CACG.

Huge debate over ATS and somewhat at CAC Forums about coins going from MS to AU with the whole "rub" and "wear" debates.  You have 1 of the 3 big TPGs doing a 180 from market to techincal grading and it's causing some angst. 

Yes I read that without comment. Cabinet rub has been a problem with me since the early days of grading Bust coinage. Too many coin doctors still out there and I feel they are being identified a little at a time. Problem is that nobody seems to notice. 

On 1/16/2024 at 12:28 PM, RWB said:

The usable life of silica gel (aka, silica xerogel) depends on the humidity and air circulation. The best commercial products have an indicator added so the material turns blue when it's saturated. You'll have to test for longevity. In a humid place, such as the Gulf Coast, you might have to replace every month. I am not familiar with any specific brand -- you'll have to read the labels. Hardware stores and some coin shops carry silica gel.

You can regenerate it by gently heating to about 120F for a couple of hours.

Agree but regeneration of my boxed silica seems to work well in the oven. Problem is most ovens (even with newer solid state controls) have minimum heat of 170. Like you stated the object is to slowely bring the temp up given enough time to thoroughly dry out the silica media. Cardboard cartons that store the silica seem to take that 170 fegrees just fine.