Coinbuf

In all honesty while that is why many of us are here; there are one or two here that do in fact want to change what and how others collect because those one or two individuals think they know it all and the only "right" way is their way, the premise of this thread pretty much demonstrates that.

No Sego is the QA sticker guy, or at least QA is the only one I know he is associated with. I'm not a collector of Ike dollars so if there is another sticker that is devoted to the Ike dollar I've not heard about it.

Lol, thanks zadok, I guess if I had a $400 steak meal that would qualify as photo worthy, but I'm not so sure that my PBJ is really worthy of any sort of highlight.

I do not actually know, I've never read up on the product as I don't use them myself.

Ok so what you found is a bogus ebay listing/seller, it is unfortunate that it shows up in the PCGS database, here are some simple and basic things that would have tipped you off that the description is wrong. First did you do a cert lookup for that NGC cert? I'm guessing not because if you had this is what you see. Note that the label does not say this is a double die, because it is not one, the ebay seller was lying. Second did you notice on the PCGS site the PCGS coin # If you had clicked on that number it would have taken you to the coinfacts page for a normal regular everyday 1992-D coin. DDO or DDR coins are given a unique coin id number by PCGS as you can see from this screenshot taken from PCGS coinfacts of the 1995 and 1995 DDO coins. Notice that the id number is different for a 1995 and 1995 DDO, if PCGS recognized a 1992-D DDO it would have its own unique id number. It may seem like I'm picking on you, but that is not what I'm doing, I am trying to help you find the correct information in the future. The internet is full of great information, and at the same time tons of misinformation, you have to know how to separate the two. There are doubled die coins out there to be found, for 1972 there are ten different doubled die varieties, I actually found a coin from die #10 two weeks ago whils searching a bu roll I have. It is so minor that none of the TPG's (well maybe ANACS) will even attribute it on the holder, and this is true of many of the minor varieties. But still I put it into a flip with the information and will hang onto it just because I can, as I said not tring to diswade your efforts but until you know what to look for its mostly just a waste of time. I suggest that you review the Wexler site, he has a very informational segments on how dies are made, doubled dies what is and what is not, well worth the read. Wexler

Air-tite and a capital plastic type of holder are two very different things and attempting to use those as equal will confuse anyone that knows the difference, just saying. I love the capital holders but they can be quite bulky, I have several single coin holders, some mint/proof set holders, a two board set for Wheat Lincolns, and a gold type set holder. The gold type set holder is black and the gold coins look smashing in that.

Where did you get the screenshot in your OP? Was it from a known and reputable source or just some guy on fakebook? I am asking these questions because we cannot discuss or compare your coin with the photo you supplied if we have no idea where you got the photo from or the validity of what it is. In the future provide a link to your example coin if it comes from a reputable site, I will not click on links to FB, Twitter, or the like. Or in leu of a link provide the source of the example. Variety Vista has no listing for any DDO for 1992-D, and while Wexler has one listed it looks nothing like either the photo you copied or the one you found. Both your coin and the one in the top photo look like die erosion as the others have said. Do you know what a doubled die is? I am not asking that to be snarky or rude but it seems a valid question given what you have posted in this and prior threads. If you do not know what to look for it is nearly impossible for you to identify something, it seems that you are looking for the Titanic by digging in the desert.

Just a normal coin, nothing else.

Nope, not even close.

Pretty sure that QA is still in business, this was started by a well known coin dealer James Sego who if memory serves is very knowledgeable about Ike dollars. Now I don't put any weight into this sticker myself, but I do think that the fellow that started the service is considered to be above board with his dealings, and not a fly-by-night type of organization.

Just a bit of advice, it is not advisable to put your contact information on an open chat board, better to just ask for any communication via PM and then give contact info to any individual that may respond with what you need. Best of luck in locating what you seek.

Looks like a TV seller promotional type of label, unusual for a 21 peace dollar but it is what it is.

It could be a mechanical error, it could be that one of the sellers is using that as a stock photo, cannot say for sure. You say you bought one, did you receive the coin yet and is that the actual cert number on the coin you received? If yes have you contacted the other seller to let him know that you also have a coin with the same cert number he is selling and is he certain that he also has a coin with that cert number?

A rather rare date with few MS examples, the obv color looks off and gives me the impression the coin has been messed with or ex jewelry. While it may just be due to the wear, the 2 in the date seems much less sharp than the other numbers, maybe a red flag maybe not. But if the photos are true to the look of the coin I do not think this would straight grade, and if it would why is it not in a holder already. If you know and trust the seller it may be ok, but this is one that I would likely pass on myself as I prefer not to gamble with coins like this.

Your photos are too washed out with light and too highly magnified to see much, what I do see looks like simple post mint damage. Please review the pinned post at the top of this section titled "what you need to know about posting coins for inquiry". We only need to see in focus cropped photos of each side, not electron microscope photos.

I see no rust in your photo of the 48.

Just damaged.

PMD

Damaged during the packaging process.

Did the coin bother you before you put it under your electron microscope? The metal used to make the blanks is not 100% perfect, the process of minting a coin is not done in a clean room, the mint employees are not wearing bio-hazard suits to keep microscopic skin cells out of the press, are you getting my point yet? Nothing that involves the human presence can ever be 100% perfect, if this bothers you then buying PF or MS70 coins will be a constant source of disappointment to you. If you cannot see problems with the naked eye then it should not really be an issue. Either put away the stupid microscope and enjoy the coins or find another hobby because spending your time being disappointed with every coin you have would be a very lousy way to go through life.

If so I was unaware of it.

First let me say thanks for posting your coin and providing the background information, I greatly enjoy learning about and studying all coins so threads like this are great learning experiences for all of us. As to your question: "Do you think that it is worthwhile to own a rare coin that is this impaired but shows this much detail or, assuming that you couldn't afford an unimpaired example in an equivalent grade, settle for one that is unimpaired but much more worn?" While I very much enjoy learning about coins like in the op in general I have almost no interest in owning them. In the same way that I enjoy learning about varieties and errors yet have limited interest in collecting those coins. So for myself the answer is no, for my collection I do not feel that it is worthwhile for my collection to buy or own impaired coins at this stage of my collecting journey regardless of how rare that coin is. And I can say with no shame that I am a bit of a coin snob, I just do not enjoy owning and viewing impaired coins or coins that; with very few exceptions; fall under the grade of XF in my own collection. I understand that some collectors are very happy to own a rare coin, often times unconcerned about condition or problems the coin may have. And if the coin pleases that collector and fits into his/her collecting strategy that is a good fit. Many collectors see such coins as having character and are intrigued with and enjoy the history of an impaired coin; and while I certainly can appreciate those sentiments and ideas that is not a part of my collecting strategy. I have in my collection a handful of coins that; like the few large cents I own or my one holed and plugged seated dollar; are impaired or low grade. While I am in no hurry to replace them, I see these coins as examples I purchased before I knew what I liked or where I did not follow my own advice and remain patient and wait until I was able to purchase a nicer example. I just enjoy owning coins that are not impaired and where I can see all the detail without having to imagine what the coin should look like without the impairment. And that is the best part of coin collecting, we all get the opportunity to build our collection around our goals and what we each find exciting and enjoyable. The key to coin collecting is enjoyment, buying and enjoying what we each like.

I posted this in my ANA show report, but I don't mind showing it off again.

My thought is a struck counterfeit; however, your photos are not in sharp focus and that makes it more difficult to assess. You need to find a copy of the Rick Snow books and see if this matches up to any of the snow varieties. That will not confirm or deny authenticity as many struck counterfeits are produced using real coins. But if it does match to any known snow variety that could provide an explanation for the weakly struck portions of the coin. Also it would be helpful to know where and how much you bought this coin roll from, there are no Santa Claus's in numismatics. If the price was "too good to be true" and from a site like etsy or ebay, then the chances are very high of a counterfeit.

Forgot the pics of the early dimes