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Coinbuf

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  1. It would help if you could give some examples of what you are seeing. Newer ANACS holdered coins are often not well respected in the market so those do often sell for less than NGC or PCGS graded coins. As a general rule the pecking order goes: PCGS with CAC, NGC with CAC, PCGS, NGC, ANACS, and lastly ICG. You can find examples that contradict my list order but as an overall of the market that is what you will generally see. Very old ANACS holders, prior to the AMOS press ownership, are often sought out by some collectors as are the very early generations of NGC holders. ANACS photograde, and ANA holders and NGC Gen 1, 2, and 3 holders are often highly sought after and can bring significant premiums.
  2. My guess is that the coins you have been seeing came from mint sets, those sets were issued in cardboard holders that over time have imparted toning to the coins, often the black splotchy type of tone you describe. This quarter is currently on GC and is what I think you have been seeing in most of your searches, I would bet this coin came from a mint set. Just keep looking I'm sure you can find what you want, just might be a lengthy search.
  3. AU details cleaned is where I'm at, it appears to be picking up some secondary tone but in the video it looks more polished than lustrous.
  4. I would say that your description of yourself fits most of us, the hard part of not having a fat wallet is that a collector has to be disciplined and patient. Takes way longer to build a set that way but I find that studying while I accumulate funds makes buying that one big coin extra satisfying. In some ways it wouldn't be as fun if all I had to do was click the mouse a few times, although I would not mind trying that at least once.
  5. It looks to be a large date to me as well.
  6. I'm sorry but you are incorrect and have been told by everyone that you have a large date because that is what you have. However, since you are convinced that you and you alone are correct it serves no purpose to continue this discussion.
  7. No we (or more correctly I) am correct that you have no clue. There is another VAM that uses the rev of 78, you are making such a fool of yourself because you make statements of fact that are in fact not true.
  8. True, but it could be VAM4 which also uses the rev of 78, however, the photos are too poor to see the date clearly enough to verify or disqualify this coin as a VAM4. What is true is that we can eliminate VAM7 as none of the markers are present. So, without better photos all that can be said for sure is that this is either; VAM4, a discovery of a new rev of 78 coin, or as Eagle suggested a counterfeit that used the incorrect rev.
  9. Do you actually think anyone cares about what you think You have proven you know little about coins but at least you are a funny guy.
  10. There is nothing that can be said of your photo except that it is a coin on a scale, your photo does nothing to prove your claim when the details of the coin cannot be seen..
  11. When you see parallel lines across the coin, like you took a piece of sandpaper and moved the coin back and forth across the sandpaper in one direction, that is a good sign a coin has been cleaned in an abrasive way. At first this can be difficult for someone new to coins to see and grasp, but after you see enough of this look it stands right out, marks from circulation are random with no pattern.
  12. From your photos possibly AU58 to low MS, however, both coins appear to have hairlines so there is a possibility both might be deemed cleaned. From a value standpoint there is not much point it submitting either coin. I have included a screenshot of both the nonFB and FB coins from the NGC explorer, as you can see there is very little difference in price at this grade range between a FB coin and one that is not. Also, this date is not an expensive coin, at least not until you reach the gem plus grades; because as a first year of issue it was horded by collectors. Because it was horded there are many mint state examples to be found. This is a nice collector coin for an album, just in this condition not one that is a good candidate for submitting to a TPG.
  13. I think @Sandon nailed it, NGC considers this to be too minor to list and attribute.
  14. I agree with @Sandon with regard to your coin grading as AU55 or AU58, however, I do not see anything that would lead me to think this coin would receive a details grade from your photos. I think that it could receive a PL grade, but think a DMPL would be unlikely, I have included a screenshot of the NGC explorer page for your reference. As you can see the census shows 1 coin in AU55PL and 2 in AU58PL, so from that data it seems that NGC does not give the PL grade out very often. That could also be because very few PL AU examples have been submitted to NGC as the value doesn't look to be enough to be worth the costs. You have a very nice attractive coin, but it might be better to simply enjoy it as is vs spending the funds to have it certified.
  15. I see you have reached the limits of your intellectual abilities.
  16. Welcome to the forum, I am not following your post, why do you think these coins are not from the US mint? As to your question, no I would not spend the money to send those bicentennial quarters in to NGC for grading. These are proof coins not coins from circulation, I cannot tell from your photos if these are the clad or silver coins, but in either case these would need to grade PF70UCAM to cover the costs of submitting them. Proof coins are very difficult to grade from photos but I think the chances that these would grade high enough is slim.
  17. The photo seems over exposed so the coin may not be as bright or washed out as the photo suggests. If you are really interested in the coin I'd suggest contacting the seller and see if additional pics are available. If it does look like the photo then it is a coin you should pass on, a fitting coin for the troll's collection of trash, but not something that would be a good fit for your collection. As you know this is not the VAM the troll suggests, nor is this a rare or difficult to find coin, there are better options.
  18. I am also in the no camp, however there are collectors that this matters to.
  19. The OP is referring to coins graded and slabbed by CAC grading, DLRC has handled thousands of coins that have a CAC bean. As I looked over the selection on DLRC I could not help but think that several of the details coins look like they might straight grade elsewhere.
  20. Welcome to the forum, and thanks for posting photos that are of good quality and cropped, that is a real treat. Agreed you have a large date.
  21. Yes, however, there is not a lot of traffic on this site so the marketplace section of this forum is not very active. Having said that it never hurts to look or attempt to sell something on the marketplace as it is free to use. Here is a link to the marketplace. Link