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Just Bob

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    Just Bob got a reaction from Markmoney in It's Token Tuesday! Post 'em if you got 'em.   
    Although this is actually more a commemorative medal, rather than a token, it is included in the Chatham book on Mississippi tokens, so I am including it here.
    This piece was issued to celebrate President Taft's visit to Vicksburg in October 1909, during his tour of the States.
    Although most tokens I encounter are worn or even damaged, I may pick them up if the money is right, since I may not get another chance to own one. This one is no exception. It looks like it was carried as a pocket piece, and took a serious hit on what is considered the obverse - the side picturing the issuing bank. I don't always worry about upgrading my less-than-stellar pieces, but I would like to find a nicer example of this one. It is listed as an R8 (4-5 pieces known), but I always take those estimates with a grain of salt. More likely, there are 6-8 pieces, possibly a few more. This is the only one I have seen in the last 10 or more years.
     
     
     


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    Just Bob reacted to VKurtB in altered color   
    Now, now, let’s not get all radical and junk. If we start expecting people to actually read stuff, the whole hobby may implode. 
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    Just Bob got a reaction from VKurtB in altered color   
    I assume you did not read the policies and/or frequently asked questions that are posted on NGC's "help center" webpagebefore sending in your coins. If you had, you would have seen this:
    "NGC assigns an adjectival NGC Details Grade to coins that have surface conditions that preclude numeric grading. These surface conditions include improper cleaning, scratches and damage."
    or this:
    "Numeric grades give a strong indication of a coin's value relative to its value in other grades. Most collectors and dealers would pay more for an MS 64 than an MS 63. This is not necessarily the case for coins that have received NGC Details grades."

    The value of NGC Details-graded coins is much more subjective due to the variety and severity of the surface problems that result in NGC Details grades. It depends a lot on one's personal preference. Some collectors may prefer an XF Details Improperly Cleaned coin to an AU Details Scratched coin, while for others it may be the opposite.

    If NGC were to assign numeric grades to coins with surface problems, it might imply that higher graded examples would be worth more than lower graded examples. That would not always be the case, however, depending on the type and severity of the problem. An MS 64 Scratched coin would not necessarily be worth more than an MS 63 Improperly Cleaned coin; it could be the opposite.

    To avoid this potentially confusing scenario, we describe an NGC Details-graded coin's condition with an adjectival grade range along with a statement of the primary surface problem".
    Might have saved you some frustration if you had done a bit of research before submitting.
    If you had read this prior to submitting, you would have known that, in the event your coins were determined to have issues, they would not receive a numeric grade.
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    Just Bob reacted to Yarm in It's Token Tuesday! Post 'em if you got 'em.   
    Hull lead works (UK) halfpenny token.


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    Just Bob reacted to Kirt in It's Token Tuesday! Post 'em if you got 'em.   
    Transit token from Brazil


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    Just Bob reacted to Fenntucky Mike in It's Token Tuesday! Post 'em if you got 'em.   
    Wayland, MI - Boggs Recreation
    $0.10 Aluminum, 25mm, 1.39g, diamond, Type 1 reverse "R" merges into "¢"

    $0.10 Aluminum, 25mm, 1.39g, diamond, Type 2 reverse "R" & "¢" narrow gap.

    There is also a Type 3 reverse ("R" & "¢" wide gap) and a Type 2 obverse with a bow tie instead of diamond. Neither of which I have yet, I do know where there is a Type 3 reverse just haven't been able to acquire it yet.
    $0.05 Aluminum, 22mm, 1.00g, Diamond

    There is a Type 2 coin with no diamond and the abbreviation "ST." where the diamond was/is. There is also a variety with the address as "28" instead of "128", not sure if it is a die error or if they just moved down the street. Seems to be a die error.
    Boggs Recreation has been proving elusive for me in the little research I've done so far, so no historical tie in for these guys yet.
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    Just Bob reacted to Coinbuf in It's Token Tuesday! Post 'em if you got 'em.   
    Some cool tokens fellas, I don't own any so I'm enjoying seeing yours.  
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    Just Bob got a reaction from Kirt in "Good for .25 in Trade"   
    Your token was used at the Elba Fruit Market, a grocery store in Calais, Maine, which was owned by Mr.Checchi. I tried to find the start date of the business  and how long it was there, but I had no success. I did find a picture.
    An example of this token sold for $97 in January, 2019, and there is one example for sale on Ebay currently. The asking price is $49.99.
     
     
     

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    Just Bob got a reaction from larne737 in 1857 Flying Eagle cent oddity?   
    Welcome to the forum.
    If you could post clear, close-up pictures of both sides (right side up, please) and the edge, it might be helpful in determining what you have.
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    Just Bob got a reaction from larne737 in 1857 Flying Eagle cent oddity?   
    Interesting. Looks like someone put three cents together, either by gluing them, or machining one or more to fit together. Not a mint error, in my opinion, but kind of cool, nonetheless.
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    Just Bob got a reaction from larne737 in 1857 Flying Eagle cent oddity?   
    I agree. Very cool.
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    Just Bob got a reaction from KarenHolcomb in IHC Weight Allowance, Please   
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    Just Bob got a reaction from RonnieR131 in "Good for .25 in Trade"   
    Your token was used at the Elba Fruit Market, a grocery store in Calais, Maine, which was owned by Mr.Checchi. I tried to find the start date of the business  and how long it was there, but I had no success. I did find a picture.
    An example of this token sold for $97 in January, 2019, and there is one example for sale on Ebay currently. The asking price is $49.99.
     
     
     

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    Just Bob got a reaction from Thompson2 in Lighting for ID'ing DD Kennedys?   
    This is very true. Some of them have miniscule doubling that shows up only on the reverse stars, and then only under strong magnification. Although they actually are doubled dies, they are so insignificant as to be worth almost no premium, except to a die-hard variety collector.
    Look for splits on the serifs of the letters, like on the coin pictured below:
     

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    Just Bob got a reaction from hydnumis in Lincoln cent 1944 error ?   
    That is actually a common occurrence. We see pictures of coins with this type of damage quite often.
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    Just Bob got a reaction from Numismatreasure in Barber dimes - which one is AU58 versus MS63?   
    I think the 1892 is the MS, and the 1900 is the AU.
    Edited to add: I doubt I would have ever caught the differences in the design on these, but ever since you pointed it out in your earlier post, the differences stand out clearly. Now, that is the first thing I look for on dimes of this era.
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    Just Bob got a reaction from Thompson2 in Sorting 1964 Kennedy Half Dollars?   
    https://www.coincommunity.com/us_coin_grading/half-dollar-kennedy.asp
     
    https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/how_to_grade_half_dollars/
     
     
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    Just Bob got a reaction from GBrad in 1997 mystery T reverse   
    Try turning off all lights except for one table lamp or similar light source. Hold the coin at an angle to the light and look at the placement of the shadows that the devices throw off. Is the "T" showing the same shadow, different shadow, or no shadow? Rotate the coin 90 degrees to confirm your finding. The same shadow means it is raised. Different shadow means it is incuse or otherwise different from the devices. No shadow means it is even with the surface of the coin.
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    Just Bob got a reaction from Hinkle in 1975-D penny floating head   
    "Floating Head?"
    Is this someone's cutesy name for an over polished die?
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    Just Bob got a reaction from Coinbuf in It's Token Tuesday! Post 'em if you got 'em.   
    Island Side Plantation was owned by the Jones family from 1908 to 1940. It became one of the former plantations which were part of a 1940 government project in which 10,000 acres were purchased by the government, and divided into parcels for resale. Former tenant farmers could apply for low interest loans to buy small tracts of the land.
    Tokens were issued in 5 and 10 cent denominations. (I am still looking for a 10)
     


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    Just Bob got a reaction from Coinbuf in It's Token Tuesday! Post 'em if you got 'em.   
    History by Gil Hoffman: (Mississippi Rails website)
    The Leaf Lumber & Veneer Works was incorporated at Leaf, Greene County on April 14, 1924, by B. E. Green, of McLain; J. C. Daughdrill, of Leaf, and H. M. Hempstead, of Mobile, AL, with authorized capital stock of $100,000. In early 1924 the company purchased the plant of the Overstreet Veneer Company, at Beaumont, Perry County, and moved it to Avent, adding a bandsaw, edger and trimmer. The Avent mill, with a cutting capacity of 25,000 feet per day, cut hardwood and cypress. 

    In April 1929 the company bought the plant and timber holdings of the Southern Saw Mill Company, at Greenville, Florida, and moved its operations from Avent, MS, to Greenville, FL, with operations commencing there in July 1929.
     



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    Just Bob got a reaction from Coinbuf in It's Token Tuesday! Post 'em if you got 'em.   
    Although none of these tokens is rare, it took me about a year to accumulate all of the different varieties.
    The distinctive reverse of some of the brass tokens - "IN MDSE" on a banner overlaying the denomination - is recognizable as a product of Meyer & Wenthe, a token and badge manufacturer in Chicago. I have not been able to determine if they made all of the other styles, but the fact that the obverses are the same on the brass examples, plus the use of the "IN MDSE" wording on one style of the plastic tokens, makes me think that they were all made by the same company.
     
     
     
     


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    Just Bob got a reaction from bsshog40 in SHOULD I CLEAN THIS COIN?   
    I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that those areas that are really crusty will still be noticeable, even if you are able to remove all of the black stuff. Whether or not you will be able to retone it to make it look natural is anyone's guess. 
    That said, olive oil is probably your safest choice.
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    Just Bob reacted to Conder101 in Rare Morgan 1889 1dollar coin   
    Maybe he sold the CC part already. 
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    Just Bob got a reaction from CHunUSMC in State Quarters Program - grading recommendation?   
    Keep in mind that these were not taken directly off the press and placed into rolls by hand. They went into a bin with thousands of other coins, and were then counted, sorted, bagged, rolled, etc., all the while being banged into by other coins. The odds of finding a pristine example are slim, as the others have stated.
    Welcome to the forum.