Just Bob

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Oliver Baylis Overstreet ran a general store in Beaumont, MS from 1913 until his death in 1929. His store passed to his heirs, and was run by his wife, Laura, until 1940. When I bought this token, it came with a note to a former owner that was written by LLoyd Wagaman, in which he attributed the token to Beaumont. Mr Wagaman was a founder of the Indiana-Kentucky-Ohio Token and Medal Society, and wrote the book on Indiana tokens, He was also an attributer/identifier of tokens, and designed and created many series of elongated cents. More on Mr. Wagaman at a later date.

True. I should have finished the thought, and said that it was a one-year-only event, to celebrate the 225th anniversary of the mint, and there were no P mint marks from 2018 forward. Oh well, no sainthood for Bob.

They won't grade a plated coin.

It is not a theory. It is a fact. According to the Red Book (A Guide Book of United States Coins), "Prior to 1996 all dies were made at the Philadelphia Mint. ... Dies for use at other mints are made with the appropriate mintmarks before they are shipped to those mints."

It, and 99 more of its brethren, would be worth a dollar.

The close-up picture is showing strike doubling, also known as machine or mechanical doubling. It is not a doubled die.

Unless I am remembering wrong, all mint marks were applied at the Philadelphia mint.

I use voice-to-text.

The coin appears to have rub on the high points, and thus would be somewhere in the AU grade range. That makes it worth $0.01.

Welcome to the forum. What do you collect?

Cool. Does that mean I will become an honorary Beatle?

Welcome to the forum. The answer to your question depends on the denomination and year of the coin. Prior to 1980, coins minted at the mint in Philadelphia carried no mint mark. The only exception to this was the Jefferson nickels that were coined during WWll, and were made of a different composition than the previous and subsequent years. Between 1980 and 2017, Lincoln cents minted in Philadelphia also carried no mint mark.

You can try to explain, reason, justify, and convince from now until doomsday, but it will never make this piece into something it is not. I understand the need to feel as though you have found something special. And, once you have convinced yourself that your "coin" is a genuine rarity, it is almost impossible for your mind to be changed. But, several different knowledgeable people, (and a few actual experts, who have handled genuine examples of these), have informed you of what you really have. Kellogg & Co. was a respected manufacturer - even receiving the endorsement of Augustus Humbert - and, I believe, would never have released a piece of this inferior quality. I can guarantee you that they would not have released a coin containing half the proper amount of gold, which, in another post, you said your coin has. Carefully, and without bias, compare your piece with pictures of genuine pieces. Pay particular attention to the hair detail on the obverse. That, in itself, should be enough to convince you that this is not a real coin. As for your dispute with PCGS, you need to pay them for their opinion and be done with it, in my opinion.

That's pretty!

Amen!

Back on page 4 of this thread, I posted a token by pharmacists Bearden & La Grone, and mentioned that there was another style token that was issued. I was watching one of those on Ebay at the time, but it was not in the best of condition, so I decided to pass. Shortly after that, another one showed up, and it was in a bit better condition, so I put in a bid and won.

You may be tempted to clean the rust off of the 1943D. Don't do it. The coin has very little numismatic value as it is - it will have none, if cleaned. The fact that it is rusted means that it most likely has original surfaces, which have not been cleaned - or worse, stripped and re-plated. This gives it character, which should not be messed with.

Johann Friedrich looks like he could have come straight out of a Disney movie. Cool coin, though.!

Welcome to the forum.

You average one silver quarter a month, and I find one every 5 or 6 years. Good hunting! Welcome to the forum.

I am sorry, but your one-of-a-kind doubled die, small date, close AM, copper 1943 Continental Bust Dollar with special matte finish and extreme overdate is clearly a fake.

You see this in the above picture?

All of the research, posting, and wishful thinking in the world will not transform this piece into something it clearly is not. I am sorry, Deerhunter, but it is a fake.

It looks like it could have been a die break that caused the two letters to run together, and the "N" to be partially filled. It could also be some odd looking damage that mashed everything, giving it that appearance. Sorry I can't be more definite. Small die breaks are pretty common, and hub and die wear were problems in the 80s. Either way, it does not add any value to the coin.