Just Bob

Any idea why the '05 quarter eagle got an "altered surfaces" designation?

I see the answers to some of the questions have been changed. I will not belabor the points here, but will just wait for the finished article. Should be really interesting.

It can't be RPM -10 since all coins struck from that obverse die would look alike, and the position of the mint mark on your coin is far to the right of the example on Variety Vista.

On 2/10/2024 at 8:07 PM, FlyingAl said:

No, they were not. 

Hold on. Are you saying that the die pair was used to strike only a dozen or so examples (or how ever many were sent to the Smithsonian plus the ones allegedly belonging to the Eva Adams estate) and then retired? If that is the case, this story just got a lot more interesting. I am really looking forward to the results of your research.

On 2/5/2024 at 8:32 AM, tj96 said:

It looks like some type of adhesive or epoxy. Acetone or some kind of paint thinner will probably remove it. 

+1

That is a very nice group of medals. I love the designs, particularly the way they stand out on the silver piece.

How long has it taken to find all of these examples?

That looks like a Henning nickel. Can you show a closer picture of the reverse, oriented correctly, focusing the word "PLURIBUS?"

Sorry. Forgot to say, "Welcome to the forum."

That's a scary looking nickel! Jefferson looks like a zombie, and Monticello has eyes! 

Welcome to the forum. Your coin is not an error coin. It has some glue or other foreign substance on it. You might be able to pick it off or soak it in some acetone and get it to come off.

On 1/18/2024 at 1:58 PM, C.j.4 said:

A broken neck, just kidding, but I looked at a lot of penny and none have a circle like that on the neck.

That's because the kid's dad took the punch and hammer away from him before he had a chance to bang on any more coins.

On 1/14/2024 at 9:36 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

JP Morgan's Commodities Strategist Natasha Kaneva, in BARRON'S a few issues back, is looking for $2,300 for gold in 2024 and $30 silver. 

I imagine everyone who buys gold and silver as an investment is looking for that. Whether they will see it is debatable.

On 1/15/2024 at 11:43 PM, FlyingAl said:

Surfaces, strike, rims, sheen, edges, VAM 1H. 

For these, that's about as good as you can get. 

You have a good eye, young man!

Congrats on your score in the grading contest, too. 

What were the die markers that convinced you that yours was indeed a proof?

It must be my phone, but I only see one picture of the Peace dollar reverse.

Two nice finds 

On 1/14/2024 at 12:02 AM, Mike Meenderink said:

Do some research on improperly annealed clad coins then get back to me. Thanks. You and Sandon.

I have done research on improperly annealed coins, and what you described - molecules migrating from the copper core, through the clad layer, to the surface, and doing it while the coin is in circulation, cannot and does not happen.

Have you been drinking?

On 1/13/2024 at 5:23 PM, R__Rash said:

 now  the question is has there ever been verification of clad error missing from both sides of the same coin before being struck. 🤔

 

 

 

Yes. The OP's coin appears to have simple environmental damage, so i don't think it applies, but here is a section of an article by error coin dealer Jon Sullivan:

One other type of missing clad layer is called a “dual missing clad layer,” which is a coin missing both the obverse and reverse clad layers, with only the copper core remaining. Such a coin will be copper on both sides and will weigh approximately 30% less than a normal coin of its type. The dual missing clad layers are incredibly rare, with less than 10 known for Roosevelt Dimes, five to 10 for Washington Quarters, and only one for Kennedy Half Dollars, and none are known for the dollar coin series.

On 1/13/2024 at 12:53 PM, Mike Meenderink said:

  The clad layers were thin/ stressed and not properly adhered, then began to basically exchange copper from the center to the outer surfaces. 

This is the first time I have heard this theory. Can you explain how it is possible for copper to migrate from the middle of the coin to the outside of the clad layer?

Although I don't think this is true hub doubling, I hope I am wrong, and the OP has made a new discovery. 

If you decide to pursue this, I suggest posting on the coneca forum as suggested above, and please keep us informed. 

If you are talking about the appearance, it looks like someone has attempted to clean it, or the surfaces have been messed with some other way. If you're referring to something else, please specify.

I am not connected with NGC in any way, but I can offer an opinion. Recent "sold" listings on Ebay show these 7k state series eagles in MS 70 selling at prices from $50 to $80. If you are only being offered $25 - 40, you might want to consider listing them on Ebay. 

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean a thing, but I took a shot at guessing what the OP was talking about. I did not want to post it until the OP had a chance to answer. I typed a post and saved it, though. Looks like I guessed correctly.

Here is a screenshot:

Unlike most other collectors, that fingerprint on the 1911 does not bother me. The little round spot in front of Lincoln's upper lip does cause some concern, though. Still, I intend to keep an eye on it when it comes up for auction.

So, do you think this was one of those "midnight shift" jobs?