SkyMan Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Beautiful coins Irvin, Larry and Bob!!! I don't think it is the eagle I think it's the bib ,Or the chest if you will, Under the date that is holding it down...I had a 59 that had the same problem and they wouldn't even give it a Cam designation... Yeah, it's the bib/chest. I just sent in a PR67CAMEO '53 that is quite nice to NCS/NGC and even though it looks great it still only cameod. It has the same thing going on on it's bib/chest. Regarding '56s, while they are one of the three most common deep cameo Franklins they are only the third most common at NGC. The most common (by far) is the 1962, then comes the '63, and only then the '56. Here's my second string 1956. I originally bought it as a PCGS PR68 (pre-cameo days). It currently resides in a NGC PR67UCAM. Yeah, I know, PCGS grades things much tougher than NGC. That's why they're worth more in a PCGS slab, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robec1347 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Beautiful coins Irvin, Larry and Bob!!! I don't think it is the eagle I think it's the bib ,Or the chest if you will, Under the date that is holding it down...I had a 59 that had the same problem and they wouldn't even give it a Cam designation... Yeah, it's the bib/chest. I just sent in a PR67CAMEO '53 that is quite nice to NCS/NGC and even though it looks great it still only cameod. It has the same thing going on on it's bib/chest. Regarding '56s, while they are one of the three most common deep cameo Franklins they are only the third most common at NGC. The most common (by far) is the 1962, then comes the '63, and only then the '56. Here's my second string 1956. I originally bought it as a PCGS PR68 (pre-cameo days). It currently resides in a NGC PR67UCAM. Yeah, I know, PCGS grades things much tougher than NGC. That's why they're worth more in a PCGS slab, right? I think you guys are right, which is fine. I like the coin very much and I think it is graded correctly. Sy, that is a very clean looking "second stringer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 That is a nice 56' there Sky. Very nice UCAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Thanks guys! Actually, if you look at the most forward lock of Ben's hair right at the collar line you will actually see that there is a frost break there. This is actually quite common with 1956 proof Frankies, and it does not seem to stop either service from DCAMing the coins. I personally agree with them. Anyhow, it drives me crazy that they have that sort of an understanding about a common (raised) feature of 1956 proofs, and yet they hold that a recessed portion of 1953's that often has a frost break will take those '53's out of the running for DCAM status. For example, note that in Tomaska's book 4 out of the 5 1953 examples (plate coins # 17 - 21) have this issue. Arrrrgggghhhh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrantique Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Great looking 56 UCAM Sy, makes you really appreciate a beautiful Franklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count_Erfit Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Oh NO! A ...break... in the frost on a lock of hair. FIE! That relegates it to a pile of excrement. WHO could have a coin in their collection with a ....shudder.... FROST BREAK? At the risk of the ire of the board, I will state that this has gone just a BIT too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Oh NO! A ...break... in the frost on a lock of hair. FIE! That relegates it to a pile of excrement. WHO could have a coin in their collection with a ....shudder.... FROST BREAK? At the risk of the ire of the board, I will state that this has gone just a BIT too far. Count, all I was pointing out was the inconsistencies of the grading services. Obviously the frost breaks don't matter to me or I would not have bought the coin(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhair Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Nice old 59' Larry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrown4 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Great looking Franklins all. Heres's one still in the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrantique Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Nice to see those old frankies in original Mint sets. And some FBL's Larry and Rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count_Erfit Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Count, all I was pointing out was the inconsistencies of the grading services. Obviously the frost breaks don't matter to me or I would not have bought the coin(s). No offense meant. I just had to vent about the near OBSESSION with frost that is in the market. That coin is PRETTY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Larry, that's a nice '59-D. Trying to find one with any color is tough. Rey, that's a fun '56. It's good to have the old mint set holder still. Here's another '56. The area that appears yellow is more of a sea foam yellowish green in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrantique Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Nice colorful coin Sy, I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonWare Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I like the colors that these franklins seem to get after awhile. Nice one Sky and yours too Winston. Ya'll remember the one I bought. It is toning. The spots look like *spoon* tho'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dang Sky, that 63 looks almost as good as mine! Very nice Sky!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrantique Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) Dang Sky, that 63 looks almost as good as mine! Very nice Sky!! Your right Bobby that would be a close call Edited June 7, 2007 by rrantique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhair Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saen78 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Larry and Saen, those be some mighty purty Frankies!! That's particularly nice color for a '60 as there were no paper/cardboard mint sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 We've done enough Frankies for a while (hard as I find that to say), so let's try something everybody probably has a few of. The images are courtesy of LucyBop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonWare Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 From my man Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count_Erfit Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 From da wife's birthyear set: No subtracting to figger out her age, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count_Erfit Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Next has gotta be a COPPER one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrantique Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) Just One Sorry for the quality of these photos Edited June 8, 2007 by rrantique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Looks like we're gonna get our fill of wheaties now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOILER78 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Very nice 09's VDB there boiler!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
