Grading Morgan a Peace reverse proofs. 1 1

[Steeler-guy]

Here are two coins I just received back from grading. One is 69 and the other is a 70. 
 

First Coin 

2nd Coin. 
 

Can you guess scores?  I’m interested in others opinions as to grade. They are two different grades. I’ll post grades later after hopefully getting some comments. 
 

thanks much

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[Mike Meenderink]

The one with the scratch in the neck is the 69. Easy

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mike Meenderink

[Mike Meenderink]

The other one just squeaked by with a 70 with this mark on the cheek/ face as well

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mike Meenderink

[Steeler-guy]

Ok thank you. The US Mint quality control of these coins is horrible.I think these were the best coins offered this year from the mint. Very sad.i guess I’m lucky to get one 70. 

[VKurtB]

On 12/21/2023 at 10:49 AM, Steeler-guy said:

Ok thank you. The US Mint quality control of these coins is horrible.I think these were the best coins offered this year from the mint. Very sad.i guess I’m lucky to get one 70. 

Yes.

[EagleRJO]

On 12/21/2023 at 11:49 AM, Steeler-guy said:

The US Mint quality control of these coins is horrible

It's not just you or those coins.  The world class reputation of the mint is gone, the overall quality of the design and production for most of the coins from the mint has been flushed, there have been unresolved problems like milk spots on ASEs which hit me with the one from the previous year,  and there have been changes to really cheap dollar store like capsules and packaging the last 2 years.

This all occured because the mint went woke and quality seems like a distant second, which has been severely disappointing.  They say many of the changes were needed due to budget problems, but what they don't tell you is that's mostly because they refused to pull the rip cord on unpopular woke coin programs that are loosers.  I ended up canceling all my mint subscriptions except for very inexpensive ones like the Innovation dollar coins and one basic annual set

It really is a shame as some go back to the mid 1980's or include favorite coins like the ASEs, AGEs and Morgans.  Hopefully they will realize why so many collectors are bailing on them, but I am not holding my breath.  

Edited December 22, 2023 by EagleRJO

[Mike Meenderink]

On 12/21/2023 at 8:36 AM, Mike Meenderink said:

The one with the scratch in the neck is the 69. Easy

Do not send these coins to CACG they will grade both Rev PF Details Scratched

 

On 12/21/2023 at 8:38 AM, Mike Meenderink said:

The other one just squeaked by with a 70 with this mark on the cheek/ face as well

 

[Steeler-guy]

I really appreciate all the info. I agree 100% with EagleRJO. I just got grades on 2nd order I sent with the other and all were 70.

HAPPY DAYS. 
 

Coins  were all 2023”s: 

Peace, Morgan (Pallidium), American Liberty Metal, Morgan proof, and the American Liberty $100 gold coin. The only reason I’m getting these graded so my family knows there value  None are interested in coins. 

 

 

[VKurtB]

On 12/21/2023 at 4:24 PM, Mike Meenderink said:

Do not send these coins to CACG they will grade both Rev PF Details Scratched

 

 

This is if CACG will grade these moderns at all. That’s far from clear. 

[Sandon]

On 12/23/2023 at 1:15 PM, VKurtB said:

This is if CACG will grade these moderns at all. That’s far from clear. 

   It appears that CAC will grade all modern U.S. issues except for irregularly shaped pieces such as Basketball or Apollo 11 commemoratives or 5 oz. silver pieces. See https://www.cacgrading.com/coins-accepted/grading.   

[Steeler-guy]

On 12/21/2023 at 10:36 AM, Mike Meenderink said:

The one with the scratch in the neck is the 69. Easy

Correct. The scratch may have been too small to show under max maginifucation. I can’t see them letting go. Great Observations. 
 

[J P M]

I think it is the camera. It picks up scratches you do not normally see with a loupe. I have bought coins and then taken pictures later and found things I never saw before. And the USB scope will show you to many things you do not need to see.....

[RWB]

It is very easy to grade reverse proof NCLT. All NCLT things begin as "P-1" and go up from there --- just the reverse of real coins. There, wasn't that simple?

[Steeler-guy]

Yes. Very simple. Thank you. 

[GoldFinger1969]

Wow...CACG would call a scratch a Details coin ?  That's harsh.