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[Mike Meenderink]

Post any coin with a PF/MS70 or equivalent NGC X 10 grade. Lets see the perfection.....

Here's one of mine to start -1979 S T1 25c PF 70 UC  Deep black mirrors and super heavy crust. 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Mike Meenderink
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[IceStormZZ]

On 9/27/2023 at 2:28 AM, Mike Meenderink said:

Post any coin with a PF/MS70 or equivalent NGC X 10 grade. Lets see the perfection.....

Here's one of mine to start -1979 S T1 25c PF 70 UC  Deep black mirrors and super heavy crust. 

ohh my... wowwwww

[RWB]

Nice coin! Esp to have come from a '79 proof set.

[Sandon]

On 9/26/2023 at 7:28 PM, Mike Meenderink said:

Lets see the perfection.....

   I can show you some modern U.S. coins graded "70", of which NGC and PCGS have graded millions--all proofs, commemoratives, other collectors' issues, or bullion coins--but I can't show you "the perfection", because I've never seen such a coin that exhibited "perfection". I buy these coins already "slabbed" solely for registry set purposes for well below their list prices and almost always for much less than what it would cost for me to have them third-party graded.

   Here's a 2000-S proof Lincoln cent graded PF 70 Ultra Cameo that I bought last year for $9.09 (part of an 11 slab for $100 deal). This single coin lists $100 in this grade in the NGC Price Guide. Although it's hard to see in the photos, there is a series of small nicks near the truncation of Lincoln's bust and to the right of the "V.D.B." on the truncation. These nicks are visible at the 5x magnification supposedly used by NGC and quite obvious at the 10x at which I usually evaluate coins.  There are also some raised plating defects in those smooth looking mirror fields.

 

[Sandon]

       Here's another coin ripped from a 2000 clad proof set, a 2000-S half dollar NGC graded PF 70 Ultra Cameo. I also paid $9.09 for this coin despite the $70 NGC Price Guide value. There is a small shiny nick on the left side of Kennedy's ear visible even under 5x magnification, though hard to see in the photo, as well as a few other shiny spots on the devices on both sides:

[J P M]

The first MS70 I picked up. It was a easy choice it at $50

[GoldFinger1969]

Did we establish on another thread -- I can't remember -- the OLDEST struck coin/commemorative/proof -- that has achieved a "70" score ?  I can't remember.

Since comemoratives were struck to be saved (even more so than proofs), there's a better likelihood that more of them (along with proofs) were better taken care of and more likely to score a 70-grade.

[GoldFinger1969]

I like the National Park Foundation coins...wish I could afford the gold ones, but the silver recreations are a decent consolation prize: 

[RWB]

On 9/26/2023 at 7:28 PM, Mike Meenderink said:

Post any coin with a PF/MS70 or equivalent NGC X 10 grade.

The National Park medal is not a coin, which is stipulated in the OP's requirement.

[Mike Meenderink]

On 10/1/2023 at 2:19 PM, RWB said:

The National Park medal is not a coin, which is stipulated in the OP's requirement.

I'll let it slide...

[GoldFinger1969]

On 10/1/2023 at 5:19 PM, RWB said:

The National Park medal is not a coin, which is stipulated in the OP's requirement.

Yup, I overlooked it.  Not sure I have any 70's other than the commemoratives...well, I guess I probably have a few ASEs or other country's silver coins like Pandas, Kruggerands, etc.

[Mike Meenderink]

[Conder101]

The first US coin to get a 70 grade was a 1964 proof cent.  It got bid up to $40,000 but it had developed spots and PCGS withdrew their grade guarantee before it sold and made a private deal with the owner to get it off the market.

The first circulation coin to get a 70 grade was a PCGS 1973 Lincoln cent.  Which also subsequently developed spots.

[numisport]

On 10/5/2023 at 6:20 PM, Conder101 said:

The first US coin to get a 70 grade was a 1964 proof cent.  It got bid up to $40,000 but it had developed spots and PCGS withdrew their grade guarantee before it sold and made a private deal with the owner to get it off the market.

The first circulation coin to get a 70 grade was a PCGS 1973 Lincoln cent.  Which also subsequently developed spots.

Dont you think it interesting that many silver Eagles and some larger silver proofs get a 70 grade while having milk spots visible with the naked eye. ? I'm puzzled by this.

[numisport]

NGC is really tough on Ikes but here's my '78-S. 

 

[numisport]

If you can't find the other Pf 70 ikes you could always settle for a 69* Ultra Cameo. Good luck !

[J P M]

How about a plain MS 70 

[Mike Meenderink]

            And another of mine...  

[Mike Meenderink]

My favorite modern (1960- present) newish coin design of all time. Excellent remaster of the Buffalo reverse. Had to have one in PF 70 UC. Superb!

[J P M]

Same here

[The 12th Denticle]

Here’s one I received as a Christmas present. It was purchased from the Mint on the release day, but I didn’t get it slabbed until a year later.

 

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[Mike Meenderink]

On 10/9/2023 at 3:44 AM, The 12th Denticle said:

Here’s one I received as a Christmas present. It was purchased from the Mint on the release day, but I didn’t get it slabbed until a year later.

Stunning

[Conder101]

On 10/7/2023 at 6:42 PM, numisport said:

Dont you think it interesting that many silver Eagles and some larger silver proofs get a 70 grade while having milk spots visible with the naked eye. ? I'm puzzled by this

In many, if not all cases, the milk spots developed or became visible after the coins were slabbed.

[Mike Meenderink]

On 10/7/2023 at 3:42 PM, numisport said:

Dont you think it interesting that many silver Eagles and some larger silver proofs get a 70 grade while having milk spots visible with the naked eye. ? I'm puzzled by this.

Well most times those spots show up after. If they are very small and very few like 1or 2 TPGs might look the other way since a mint process done improperly is what causes the milk spots to develop. If I remember correctly some rinse was not done properly RWB could tell you more.

[Mike Meenderink]

On 10/11/2023 at 3:55 PM, Conder101 said:

In many, if not all cases, the milk spots developed or became visible after the coins were slabbed.

We answered at the same exact time. Lol

[Mike Meenderink]

@Conder101 Tell us a little about how/ why these milk spots develop. 

[numisport]

On 10/11/2023 at 6:55 PM, Conder101 said:

In many, if not all cases, the milk spots developed or became visible after the coins were slabbed.

I tend to agree with that but I doubt the TPG's would guarantee the grade with a milk spot problem. I guess I could check the NGC image to see if they show when they were holdered.

[GoldFinger1969]

Lots of nice coins....

[Mike Meenderink]

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