VKurtB Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 11:09 AM, Jake7419 said: I just posted them on ebay and let the costumers decide if they want to buy them. We call that "the blind leading the stupid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 If you are truly interested in learning about error coins, which is traditionally a specialty of some advanced collectors and making honest offers based on knowledge, error-ref.com is the best website I've seen for general reference. You should learn the basics first by consulting resources like these: Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 1 | NGC (ngccoin.com) Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 2 | NGC (ngccoin.com) Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 3 | NGC (ngccoin.com) Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 4 | NGC (ngccoin.com) Variety vs. Mint Error | NGC (ngccoin.com) and other topics that are shown when "mint errors" is entered in the search bar on the NGC home page. It is also important to learn about how coins are made and about U.S. coins generally. These forum topics identify some basic resources: Any endeavor in life from which you hope to make a legitimate profit will involve study and effort. In this case, you will also be studying a field that may provide much enjoyment, as it has for me. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) On 7/23/2023 at 8:34 PM, Jake7419 said: ...I am very new to this but I have already made a couple hundred dollars in the past two weeks from several errors I found. To me thats a lot more money than i had before. I dont take this as seriously as many people on here. It replaced gambling for me. Why gamble when scamming people is a sure thing? How will your customers feel when they find out that they paid you for worthless garbage? I would suggest you STOP selling coins, as you are not knowledgeable enough to understand what you are selling.... this means you are either knowingly or unknowingly scamming people. ...and if you don't know... now you know @Jake7419 PS - Let's see that eBay handle. I think we would all love to see what you are selling for "hundreds" (which I am sincerely hoping is not true for the buyer's sake). Edited July 24, 2023 by The Neophyte Numismatist GoldFinger1969 and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 12:09 PM, Jake7419 said: New meaning I started about six months. I do a lot of research everyday. I just posted them on ebay and let the costumers decide if they want to buy them. I found this website hoping knowledgeable people would help me determine what was real. I just never saw a quarter with that kind of damage. But you are posting FRAUDULENT information and you admit you are not an expert in this field. It's one thing to sell 1 or 2 coins inadvertently by accident; it's quite another to knowingly sell multiple items. You could be forced to make amends for overcharging worthless merchandise; worst case, arrested for fraud. Years ago they arrested a guy up in Connecticut who was making fake Morgans or Caped Busts or something like that. He was hard up for $$$ -- didn't matter. Secret Service moved in...arrested....convicted.....jailed !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKK Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 9:09 AM, Jake7419 said: New meaning I started about six months. I do a lot of research everyday. I just posted them on ebay and let the costumers decide if they want to buy them. I found this website hoping knowledgeable people would help me determine what was real. I just never saw a quarter with that kind of damage. Well, thanks for having the honesty to admit that you are contributing to the problem and damaging the hobby. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Neophyte Numismatist Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) On 7/23/2023 at 8:27 PM, Jake7419 said: I love all coins, I just come into contact with a lot of American coins and bills. And....why would you not come into contact with American coins and bills in registers? Are you outside the US? [Something is not adding-up folks... my tea leaves are going crazy on this guy] Edited July 24, 2023 by The Neophyte Numismatist GoldFinger1969, Coinbuf and J P M 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Raines Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Makes me wonder just how many "Newbie" coin collectors are just counterfeiters trying to get the "Inside scoop" from legitimate coin collectors to make their counterfeits seem as genuine as possible posting questions. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Meenderink Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Two or three kids a hammer and a few other quarters smashed on a Saturday and whalah! A new $15,000 error coin on Etsy. Nice! (We used to torch Matchbox cars and make car crashes when I was a kid) Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 1:18 AM, Tony Follis said: Makes me wonder just how many "Newbie" coin collectors are just counterfeiters trying to get the "Inside scoop" from legitimate coin collectors to make their counterfeits seem as genuine as possible posting questions. My Spidey-Sense is tingling !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Meenderink Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 This is my example of a early mint error of an authentic extreme flipped brockage and one of the most rare types of errors. Its almost one of a kind. To have another like this from a modern mint is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Raines Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 1:32 AM, GoldFinger1969 said: My Spidey-Sense is tingling !! At least I answered one question correctly about the 1921 (P) "Matte" proof Peace Dollar. Oh NO I'm slowly learning about coins on a coin collecting site DAMN IT. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 1:37 AM, Mike Meenderink said: This is my example of a early mint error of an authentic extreme flipped brockage and one of the most rare types of errors. Its almost one of a kind. To have another like this from a modern mint is impossible. Mike ,Why is this not a vice job also ? Hoghead515 and The Neophyte Numismatist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 6:37 AM, J P M said: Mike ,Why is this not a vice job also ? Yea. Looks like the depression is in there backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 25 cents but with this Bidenomics its about 12 now GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) I am just a neophyte, and I am certainly not an error specialist. BUT... if it is what you say... it happened like this? (Just want to make sure I got this right ) Original coin struck and stuck to the hammer die (brockage) This brockaged hammer die came down on an already minted coin, but the coin flipped and was also struck ~40% off center The second strike was strong enough to make a new image, but not strong enough to completely obliterate the under type? (think vise-like pressure) @Mike Meenderink Would you like me to pull my BS card now? Or would you like to confirm that I am understanding the process correctly first? Can we see the obverse of the coin? Edited July 25, 2023 by The Neophyte Numismatist JT2 and J P M 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VKurtB Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 10:28 AM, The Neophyte Numismatist said: I am just a neophyte, and I am certainly not an error specialist. BUT... if it is what you say... it happened like this? (Just want to make sure I got this right ) Original coin struck and stuck to the hammer die (blockage) This brockaged hammer die came down on an already minted coin, but the coin flipped and was also struck ~40% off center The second strike was strong enough to make a new image, but not strong enough to completely obliterate the under type? (think vise-like pressure) @Mike Meenderink Would you like me to pull my BS card now? Or would you like to confirm that I am understanding the process correctly first? Can we see the obverse of the coin? Pull the card! Pull the card! powermad5000, J P M and Hoghead515 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrantique Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 11:21 AM, VKurtB said: Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J P M Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) Neo said, Can we see the obverse of the coin? I have seen the other side of this coin and it looks like coin and the devices are all flattened out and stretched. Kind of like a flat metal press table would do to it . Edited July 25, 2023 by J P M The Neophyte Numismatist, Hoghead515, JT2 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Neophyte Numismatist Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 5:47 PM, J P M said: Neo said, Can we see the obverse of the coin? I have seen the other side of this coin and it looks like coin and the devices are all flattened out and stretched. Kind of like a flat metal press table would do to it . I have no further questions your Honor. JT2, GoldFinger1969 and powermad5000 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Jury, have you reached a verdict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Guilty of manufacturing with intent to distribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...