Chelsea Phipps Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 I'm so lost I have no idea what tier to put pennies at when trying to submit forms.. Please help 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 8:23 PM, Chelsea Phipps said: I'm so lost I have no idea what tier to put pennies at when trying to submit forms.. Please help 😅 Why would you want to submit forms. Sorry I could not resist, we would need more information to give you any help. The choice of tier depends on the speed of service you want as well as the value of the items you are planning to have graded. Sandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Phipps Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 I have about 20 mis struck pennies ranging in dates from 1982- 2014 Thought they would look awesome with the grading...but I'm new to all of this so I really have no idea what to do at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) On 5/4/2023 at 8:52 PM, Chelsea Phipps said: I have about 20 mis struck pennies ranging in dates from 1982- 2014 Thought they would look awesome with the grading...but I'm new to all of this so I really have no idea what to do at the moment Can you post photos of a couple of the coins and explain what you see or what you think is mis struck. While not impossible the odds of someone new to coin collecting finding twenty error coins in the date range you say are not good. The ods are much higher that you do not have true errors and have mis identified these coins. Edited May 5, 2023 by Coinbuf Sandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Welcome to the NGC chat board. If you want to submit coins to a third-party grading service such as NGC, you must have your own sufficient knowledge of these coins to determine their likely grade range and value. Coins worth less than several hundred dollars apiece really aren't worth the cost of certification. To request NGC to attribute your coins as mint errors (whether they are found to be errors or not), you would have to pay an additional $18 fee per coin on top of the tier grading fee ($19 per coin "Modern" tier for the date range you describe), a $10 processing fee for your order and, for 20 coins, a $35 return shipping fee. This works out to a total of $785 or $39.25 per coin and doesn't include your cost of shipping the coins to NGC. Many types of mint errors on modern Lincoln cents wouldn't even have a retail value of $39.25, and if they aren't mint errors, they are likely only worth their face value of one cent apiece. NGC doesn't regard minor anomalies such as die chips, strike doubling, and die deterioration doubling as mint errors and wouldn't attribute them as such. As suggested by @Coinbuf, you may submit photos of some of the coins you think are "mis-struck" on this forum for our opinions. The photos should be clear and cropped shots of each side of each coin, and you should point out what type of error you think each one exhibits. You may find the following topics helpful: Mr.Bill347 and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Phipps Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Phipps Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 Sorry it took so long busy busy!! I'm open to positive advice! Love learning in positive ways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) On 5/4/2023 at 9:51 PM, Chelsea Phipps said: Sorry it took so long busy busy!! I'm open to positive advice! Love learning in positive ways! No worries, as I suspected I see no errors on the coins you posted. Most have plating blisters which is super common on the zinc core copper plated cents in use since 1982. A few of the coins show some split plating, again not an error just a product of the minting process of a plated coin, a few ridge rings, a sign of a worn out die and again not an error, and just plain old damage. As @Sandon posted above you can use the modern tier to submit these coins but you will not be happy with the results as you will spend hundreds of dollars to get back coin that are worth literally pennies. I wish there was an easier way to break that news to you but the simple truth is the best way I know how. Keep looking there are real errors out there, I suggest that you study up on errors are error-ref.com. That site has loads of great information on what is a real error vs what is not with good photos. Error-Ref.com Edited May 5, 2023 by Coinbuf Sandon, Mr.Bill347 and AdamWL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Bob Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 Welcome to the forum. What errors did the serious coin collector say that you had on your coins? Mr.Bill347, Chelsea Phipps and EagleRJO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Phipps Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 I'm going to say at a quick glance, I did not see either, I have had these for a minute (6) months or so, the guy sold them to be without telling me only due to the fact that he wanted me to find them myself...so take the time look at the pictures instead of just glancing and assuming that just because some are new doesn't mean anything, now I will take corrective criticism, and positive feedback so that I will continue to learn...but what you have done is kinda Disrespectful..but no hard feelings, this is the internet in 2023! 😅 Again God Bless! Have a great night and enjoy the beautiful mint state 1980's an up pennies 😊 Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Phipps Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 12:10 AM, Just Bob said: Welcome to the forum. What errors did the serious coin collector say that you had on your coins? All kinds in there and that's not ask that's only some 😊 just look and you might see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Sorry but I looked at every photo and do not see any true errors. I see plating blisters, linear plating bubbles. and the start of a ridge ring on some of them. You are going to have to be more specific on what you think is. an error and we will tell you if you are right or wrong. I don’t see anything there that is worth more than 1 cent. Did you look at the website error-ref.com as suggested to see what an actual error looks like. Sandon and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Abshier Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) @Chelsea Phipps not sure who sold you these but BEWARE ! of “error coin scams” they prey on new collectors and novice who don’t know any better …. most coins even modern stuff is just not worth sending in for grading . You can buy them anywhere already in holders with grades on them save yourself the hassle of grading fees , insurance fees and so on long turn around times Waiting for coins to come back …. I only advise someone new to learn how to grade coins first and learn the coin market what’s really worth sending in and what’s not worth sending in for grading and authentication …. What you have in your pictures that stuff is everyday pocket change money that’s not even worth sending in for grading you’re better off saving your money buy a few numismatic books learn about coin collecting and buy some graded coins by PCGS/NGC …. Rarely do I ever send a coin in grading I own a lot raw coins as well as Graded coins (that dealer or someone else sent coin in long time ago had coin graded they paid fees and so on) I just bought the coin already graded in the holders … but after awhile when you gain more knowledge about coin collecting ,you’ll learn a majority coins aren’t worth anything nor the Expenses sending them in for expensive grading procedures I included some pictures to show you what coins sell for are the same coins in your picture (also notice the 3rd last picture with RED ❌ on it !!! Beware of scams like this !!! If that could. Was worth $500 That seller would of shipped it off and had it graded himself !!! But he didn’t because he trying to rip someone off!!!) on another note I do not care for that seller’s feedback 99% he’s definitely doesn’t know what he’s talking about with that basic looking 1988 Lincoln cent I have a hunch he’s going to rip someone off stay away from deals like this ! Us older collectors are here to help newbies learn to avoid SCAMs and make better choices when buy coins for their collections the choice is yours how you take this information in Edited May 5, 2023 by Jason Abshier Sandon and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J P M Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 6:19 AM, Greenstang said: Sorry but I looked at every photo and do not see any true errors. I see plating blisters, linear plating bubbles. and the start of a ridge ring on some of them. You are going to have to be more specific on what you think is. an error and we will tell you if you are right or wrong. I don’t see anything there that is worth more than 1 cent. Did you look at the website error-ref.com as suggested to see what an actual error looks like. Welcome Chelsea. I am not sure who sold you the coins it does not matter. There are no errors that any of us can see on your coins. The members who are trying to help you have many years of knowledge and you would be at a big loss to send in these coins. They are only (common cents) . Coinbuf, EagleRJO and Sandon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) On 5/4/2023 at 11:52 PM, Chelsea Phipps said: I have about 20 mis struck pennies .. Thought they would look awesome with the grading ... You don't need to submit them to a grading company for them to look nice in your collection. I would just get some coin albums like the Littleton ones to put the cents in similar to the attached, or if you find some exceptional ones possibly with true errors in the future maybe put them in an individual NGC style slab. On 5/5/2023 at 12:51 AM, Chelsea Phipps said: I'm open to positive advice! Love learning in positive ways! On 5/5/2023 at 1:26 AM, Chelsea Phipps said: ... the guy sold them to be without telling me only due to the fact that he wanted me to find them myself... Sorry to say it looks like you were scammed if you paid more than 1C each as I also don't see any of value or with errors. I mean you are told there are errors, but you have to discover them ... really? Don't add insult to injury by submitting them to a grading company, which would also be a total waste of your money. I would just caulk this one up as a lesson learned as a newer collector, and learn a lot more about coins (see the post by Sandon above) before buying anything else. Edited May 5, 2023 by EagleRJO Sandon and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 11:47 PM, Chelsea Phipps said: Oh dear! There are no errors here, none. Just typical cents, full stop. Two possibilities. One, he actually believes these are errors, in which case he’s a fool. Two, he knows they are not, and he’s a crook. Take your pick - fool or crook. Neither is a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 I am actually glad you came here to ask this question as you have no error coins and I would hate to see you literally BURN your cash on coins worth about 0.25-0.30 cents. Let's do a little math check here to give you an idea. Your coins are worth about thirty cents. For twenty pennies at the modern grade, 20 X $19 = $380. For thinking they are mint errors and submitting them as such, 20 X $18 Mint Error Fee = $360. (Charged whether or not the coin is actually an error or not) For a new member to be able to submit, you have too many coins for a basic so $150 for a membership. Shipping fees to and from and accounting fees, eh, roughly, $85. $380+$360+$150+$85=$975. You are saving $974.70 by NOT sending these coins in. I don't know who informed you that you have errors in these coins but you need to not buy from or listen to their advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 On 5/6/2023 at 3:11 PM, powermad5000 said: I am actually glad you came here to ask this question as you have no error coins and I would hate to see you literally BURN your cash on coins worth about 0.25-0.30 cents. Let's do a little math check here to give you an idea. Your coins are worth about thirty cents. For twenty pennies at the modern grade, 20 X $19 = $380. For thinking they are mint errors and submitting them as such, 20 X $18 Mint Error Fee = $360. (Charged whether or not the coin is actually an error or not) For a new member to be able to submit, you have too many coins for a basic so $150 for a membership. Shipping fees to and from and accounting fees, eh, roughly, $85. $380+$360+$150+$85=$975. You are saving $974.70 by NOT sending these coins in. I don't know who informed you that you have errors in these coins but you need to not buy from or listen to their advice. A con man or a truly dumb man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 11:23 PM, Chelsea Phipps said: I'm so lost I have no idea what tier to put pennies at when trying to submit forms.. Use the Crocodile Tear. You'll feel better afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamWL Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Paying fees to have those Lincoln Cents graded would be throwing money away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
