anything special about these CC's?! want to know before I send them in plz & thank you in advance. 0

[marr420]

[J P M]

I am not sure what you are looking for? I do think it is odd that both reverse coins of different years have a die crack in the exact same spot on the right above the A in AMERICA?

[Sandon]

  They appear to be lower end uncirculated 1883-CC and 1884-CC dollars that would likely grade in the MS 62-63 range.  As dealers now sell them for $300 or more, a price that I regard as inflated considering that most of their original mintages still exist in uncirculated condition, some collectors might think them worthy of certification, though I wouldn't. There are two 1883-CC and one 1884-CC VAM varieties that NGC would attribute under VarietyPlus for an additional $18 fee, but none of them is especially well-known or valuable. See Morgan Dollars (1878-1921) | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com) . I can't tell from your photos whether you have any of these VAMS.

[Coinbuf]

This seller is well known for manipulating his images.  I have not met anyone that got anything even close to what they thought they would.

[EagleRJO]

They may even have AT as there is no good color progression and only blotchy color changes.  I also don't see any "pull away" of the toning except at a very limited number of stars, another AT indication.  @Coinbufhas a better eye than me for things like this.

Edited March 4, 2023 by EagleRJO

[powermad5000]

Those look like Canyon City on eBay....am I correct? If so those photos are totally juiced and you won't get in hand what you think you will.

Aside from that, checking on the VAM's for those two years, I don't see any indications of VAM attribution so they are standard for the year (s). Deciphering the grade from those photos I would say they are both MS 62.

[marr420]

tyy everyone for the info and yes, it is from canyon city. should I stay away from them?!

[JKK]

On 3/3/2023 at 1:07 PM, marr420 said:

tyy everyone for the info and yes, it is from canyon city. should I stay away from them?!

So let's see. One person has said they are inflated. One strongly suspects AT. One has even identified the seller without prompting as a known purveyor of deceptive photography. What part of any of that reflects any credit on this seller that would make you think that was a good place to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars?

[Coinbuf]

On 3/3/2023 at 2:07 PM, marr420 said:

tyy everyone for the info and yes, it is from canyon city. should I stay away from them?!

Run at top speed away from them is my recommendation.

 

On 3/3/2023 at 12:40 PM, EagleRJO said:

They may even have AT as there is no good color progression, only blotchy color changes.  I also don't see any "pull away" of the toning except at a very limited number of stars, another AT indication.  @Coinbufhas a better eye than me for things like this.

There is likely no color at all on either of the two coins shown here, this seller uses several different lights and light positions along with some extreme post processing to achieve this look.   Joe (crazy hounddog) attempted to recreate this look on a thread about this seller on the PCGS forum, he got close but had to really work at it.

[GoldFinger1969]

On 3/3/2023 at 1:14 PM, Sandon said:

  They appear to be lower end uncirculated 1883-CC and 1884-CC dollars that would likely grade in the MS 62-63 range.  As dealers now sell them for $300 or more, a price that I regard as inflated considering that most of their original mintages still exist in uncirculated condition, some collectors might think them worthy of certification, though I wouldn't. 

Even with Carson City being hot and likely to stay hot in the future (if not at the recent pace) ?

[RWB]

RE: "anything special about these CC's?! want to know before I send them in plz & thank you in advance."

1. Nope. MS 61-62. Common due to GSA sale

2. Waste of money if you do.

[Fenntucky Mike]

Run don't walk, run away from CC coin. The images are completely juiced. If I remember CCC is in CO, I'll be in Aurora CO for work this month, at least a week,  I'll try to stop in if I get a chance. 

[RWB]

On 3/3/2023 at 8:34 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Run don't walk, run away from CC coin. The images are completely juiced. If I remember CCC is in CO, I'll be in Aurora CO for work this month, at least a week,  I'll try to stop in if I get a chance. 

Don't forget your gas mask!

[EagleRJO]

On 3/3/2023 at 4:52 PM, Coinbuf said:

There is likely no color at all on either of the two coins shown here, this seller uses several different lights and light positions along with some extreme post processing to achieve this look.   Joe (crazy hounddog) attempted to recreate this look on a thread about this seller on the PCGS forum, he got close but had to really work at it.

That would explain the color being so wrong.

[RWB]

The "toning" is not real. It is created by adding a small, normal tungsten light to higher color temperature light, about 3500K to 4000K used for the coin. A tungsten light has a yellow-orange color temperature of about 2800K while a cool white or 3500K light's visual color is bluer. When the camera is color balanced for 3500K the tungsten light's color will appear much warmer -- just as in the photos. The original photo also had mid-tone values altered  to emphasize the non-existent toning.

In the 1883 coin photo, I've adjusted mid-tones back to a normal range. As you can see from the background paper, color balance was very close to normal. The distinctive "butterfly" pattern of the false toning is typical of specular reflection off a coin surface.

[Mr.Bill347]

RWB is spot on! I see these juiced coins on EB all the time. Of course they look flashy and the seller often adds as many adjectives as possible with the space of a flip ie: MS+++, rare, key date, proof like etc. if you want a good CC, buy a graded one!

Don’t chance these shysters!

[Hoghead515]

On 3/3/2023 at 2:24 PM, Coinbuf said:

This seller is well known for manipulating his images.  I have not met anyone that got anything even close to what they thought they would.

I bought a quarter off him a couple years ago that looked very nice in the pictures. When I got it in hand it was banged up pretty bad with bag marks. Looked like an ms66 in the pictures but in hand it be lucky to be ms62. Hes very good at doctoring up his images. I dont see how he keeps 100% feedback. I left a neutral review and it ended up disappearing. I ended up keeping it for my album. I shouldve sent it back. I way over paid. I learned my lesson the hard way dealing with this seller. 

Edited March 4, 2023 by Hoghead515