Blesscoin Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Can anyone tell me information on this coin I believe it is a 1941 penny but it has been struck in different directions multiple times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 With the other lettering being backwards, I guessing hammered with another cent. Damaged. JT2 and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Please, this is obviously post-mint damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) It could be a capped die error. Some of the devices are repeated. The pictures are not clear it is hard to tell for sure. Is the coin curved a bit ? Edited February 9, 2023 by J P M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blesscoin Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) Yes the coin is curved up on sides Edited February 9, 2023 by Blesscoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Intentionally screwed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Take a look at this site some coin caps do get struck repeatedly and rotate before falling off . https://www.error-ref.com/?s=Capped+die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I'm somewhat "on the fence" regarding whether this 1941 Canadian cent is a legitimate mint error such as a "die cap" that received multiple strikes or an intentionally altered coin that could have been created with another 1941 Canadian cent, a vice and/or a hammer. It may be worthwhile to submit it to NGC or another legitimate grading service for a professional opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 6:45 PM, Sandon said: I'm somewhat "on the fence" regarding whether this 1941 Canadian cent is a legitimate mint error such as a "die cap" that received multiple strikes or an intentionally altered coin that could have been created with another 1941 Canadian cent, a vice and/or a hammer. It may be worthwhile to submit it to NGC or another legitimate grading service for a professional opinion. I agree this is a tough one to say for sure the fact that some devices look real like the beaded edge on the obverse is stretched out that is hard to recreate. Sandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 6:02 PM, J P M said: I agree this is a tough one to say for sure the fact that some devices look real like the beaded edge on the obverse is stretched out that is hard to recreate. C’mon, guys. Look at the incuse upside down date on the strong leaf at 10 o’clock. It’s NOT 1941. It looks like either 1960 or 1980. It absolutely ends in “0”, and the third digit is NOT an angular digit like a “4”. Turn up your skepticism machines, guys. Fenntucky Mike and Sandon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) On 2/9/2023 at 7:45 PM, VKurtB said: C’mon, guys. Look at the incuse upside down date on the strong leaf at 10 o’clock. It’s NOT 1941. It looks like either 1960 or 1980. It absolutely ends in “0”, and the third digit is NOT an angular digit like a “4”. Turn up your skepticism machines, guys. I didn't pick up on the "0" in the original photos as I should have. In the second set, there is clearly a reverse, incuse image of "1950" in the style used on 1950 Canadian cents! It's pretty clear, therefore, that this is a "vice job", not a mint error. However, I'm still not sure how the positive raised secondary images of "1941" and "Canada" were created. Nice "catch", Kurt! Edited February 10, 2023 by Sandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 7:04 PM, Sandon said: I didn't pick up on the "0" in the original photos as I should have. In the second set, there is clearly a reverse, incuse image of "1950" in the style used on 1950 Canadian cents! It's pretty clear, therefore, that this is a "vice job", not a mint error. However, I'm still not sure how the positive raised secondary images of "1941" and "Canada" were created. Nice "catch", Kurt! Hey, I’m not just another pretty face over here, you know. RonnieR131 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Damaged, I'm not sure how the additional raised details were formed but I don't think they are a result of a die cap, they are too sharp for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 8:40 PM, Fenntucky Mike said: Damaged, I'm not sure how the additional raised details were formed but I don't think they are a result of a die cap, they are too sharp for that. On 2/9/2023 at 8:04 PM, Sandon said: I didn't pick up on the "0" in the original photos as I should have. In the second set, there is clearly a reverse, incuse image of "1950" in the style used on 1950 Canadian cents! It's pretty clear, therefore, that this is a "vice job", not a mint error. However, I'm still not sure how the positive raised secondary images of "1941" and "Canada" were created. Nice "catch", Kurt! Well that 1950 thing kinda puts a Kibosh on the whole error. What fun coins show up on this forum people are so clever. Good Eye Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blesscoin Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 Thank you all for all opinions I still have confusion about how the date was doubled and raised not indented and canada as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/13/2023 at 3:14 PM, Blesscoin said: Thank you all for all opinions I still have confusion about how the date was doubled and raised not indented and canada as well It may have actually been a true error coin, however, as has been pointed out someone thought they could make it extra special and ruined the coin with a vice job on the coin. Unfortunate as it now is just a damaged coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
