Can anybody take a second look at my dime? 1 1

[Mr.Bill347]

I purchased a supposed 1942/42 overdate Mercury Dime. After looking at it under the microscope , I think it actually may be. It sure looks like doubling on the 4 and 2 and 9

TIA

Edited August 29, 2022 by Mr.Bill347

[Sandon]

   Sorry, but the doubling on the "9", "4", and "2" are classic examples of "strike doubling", which results from a die being slightly loose in the press when the coin is struck, as opposed to "die doubling", which results from the die being produced from a "hub" (die-making die) that was shifted in position between blows, resulting in doubling on all coins struck from that die.  In strike doubling the lighter secondary image is shallower than the primary image ("step-like"), as it is on your coin.  On a coin struck from a doubled die, like the 1972 doubled die cent shown below, the two images are about equally deep and sharp. Unfortunately, coins with strike doubling aren't actively sought by most collectors and usually don't have much value over coins with no doubling.

 

[Mr.Bill347]

Thanks Sandon I’m crushed!

 

[Oldhoopster]

@Mr.Bill347

I'm sure you're aware of these sites, but here is some info in case anyone is interested in learning the differences between true hub doubling and mechanical (strike ) doubling

doubleddie.com/144801.html

doubleddie.com/58222.html

 

[EagleRJO]

On 8/29/2022 at 6:41 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

I purchased a supposed 1942/42 overdate Mercury Dime. After looking at it under the microscope , I think it actually may be. It sure looks like doubling on the 4 and 2 and 9

Doing a little eBay fishing?

[Mr.Bill347]

On 8/29/2022 at 7:49 PM, EagleRJO said:

Doing a little eBay fishing?

Yes, but caught a strike last night 

a 1937 Buffalo MS65

[JT2]

On 8/30/2022 at 7:27 AM, Mr.Bill347 said:

a 1937 Buffalo MS65

Cant go wrong there Mr. Bill  she's a beauty........ If you are happening to be looking for Over date there are a couple very affordable in 1938 with the D/D and the D/S  

[The Neophyte Numismatist]

I know about the 1942/41, but is there a known variety 42/42?

[J P M]

On 9/1/2022 at 6:53 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

I know about the 1942/41, but is there a known variety 42/42?

I have not found a listing for that coin yet.

[DWLange]

There's no such variety. It's most likely just strike doubling, which is very common on the obverse of Mercury Dimes.

[EagleRJO]

On 8/29/2022 at 6:41 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

I purchased a supposed 1942/42 overdate Mercury Dime

Also, the Red Book only lists the 1942 (P) and 1942-D as having a 42 Over 41 being issued.  No 42 Over 42.

Edited September 2, 2022 by EagleRJO

[VKurtB]

Some people think that they can just make these things up.  That’s not how this works. 

[EagleRJO]

On 9/1/2022 at 8:25 PM, VKurtB said:

Some people think that they can just make these things up.  That’s not how this works. 

Actually, that is how it works on eBay, which I am willing to bet the family ranch is where Bill got the 1942/1942 dime. 

[VKurtB]

On 9/1/2022 at 7:29 PM, EagleRJO said:

Actually, that is how it works on eBay, which I am willing to bet the family ranch is where Bill got the 1942/1942 dime. 

Then eBay should not be taken seriously any more, if they ever were. 

[EagleRJO]

On 9/1/2022 at 8:31 PM, VKurtB said:

Then eBay should not be taken seriously any more

Huge grains of salt (maybe lumps) with anything listed or claimed to try and bump the price.

And then of course you get real winners like this guy who listed a common $1 circulated coin that wasn't in that great of shape (thought maybe the damage made it look old as in the date range given which is actually just when he was president) for $2,000.  I think it was dropped to $1,899 recently, and there are several like this with another better condition one going for ONLY $500. 

Edited September 2, 2022 by EagleRJO

[Mr.Bill347]

On 9/1/2022 at 8:29 PM, EagleRJO said:

Actually, that is how it works on eBay, which I am willing to bet the family ranch is where Bill got the 1942/1942 dime. 

 

On 9/1/2022 at 8:31 PM, VKurtB said:

Then eBay should not be taken seriously any more, if they ever were. 

Yes it was a shot, but I am only out ten bucks and learned about machine doubling on Mercury dimes, so a good lesson. 
thanks guys

[VKurtB]

On 9/1/2022 at 7:42 PM, EagleRJO said:

Huge grains of salt (maybe lumps) with anything listed or claimed to try and bump the price.

And then of course you get real winners like this guy who listed a common $1 circulated coin that wasn't in that great of shape (thought maybe the damage made it look old as in the date range given which is actually just when he was president) for $2,000.  I think it was dropped to $1,899 recently, and there are several like this with another better condition one going for ONLY $500. 

 

This is probably the very worst Abraham Lincoln Presidential dollar I’ve ever seen. 

[EagleRJO]

On 9/1/2022 at 10:38 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

 

Yes it was a shot, but I am only out ten bucks and learned about machine doubling on Mercury dimes, so a good lesson. 
thanks guys

[Cost of the coin plus postage?]

At least ya went with a seller who accepts returns. I take a shot at raw coins sometimes when a pic just can't tell the whole story.

Edited September 2, 2022 by EagleRJO

[VKurtB]

On 9/1/2022 at 10:00 PM, EagleRJO said:

Cost of postage?

At least ya went with a seller who accepts returns. I take a shot at raw coins sometimes when a pic just can't tell the whole story.

I’d draw the line where I only even think of dealing with people who know what varieties do and do not exist. Call it a lifestyle choice, or a fetish even. 

[RWB]

Investigate before buying this kind of thing. Look at major auction sites such as Heritage or Stacks-Bowers for photos of authentic pieces. You will save much time and money. These resources are at your finger tips and entirely free....

[DWLange]

You can learn quite a lot from this NGC tutorial. Page 17 features examples of strike doubling and other misleading forms of doubling:

https://www.ngccoin.com/pdf/US_Coin_Die_Varieties.pdf

[Mr.Bill347]

Thank You RWB, It was only ten bucks and I am reselling as a plain 1942 Mercury dime.