What do you think of this 1/2 Pagoda? 0

[Ragulkpm]

This coin is struck on Spanish reales + bought this coin on ebay and seller had mixed reviews so I am not sure.

Weight of the coin matches numista.com - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25912.html

1. Does anyone has any idea on coins struck on some other coins?
2. If I am sending for grading, do they certify it as genuine & would it be worth it?

Thanks in advance!

 

[JKK]

Why do you believe that it was overstruck on a Spanish coin? I am not aware of any good reason to believe that, looking at the piece. Overstrikes normally carry at least some vestige of the previous design.

[Fenntucky Mike]

Questionable authenticity IMO, I think counterfeit. At any rate, I see no signs of this being overstruck. I'd return this turd.

[Ragulkpm]

On 3/17/2022 at 3:21 AM, JKK said:

Why do you believe that it was overstruck on a Spanish coin? I am not aware of any good reason to believe that, looking at the piece. Overstrikes normally carry at least some vestige of the previous design.

that's what it says on Numista (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25912.html) under the comments and also in other websites where I checked so for.

On 3/17/2022 at 7:29 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Questionable authenticity IMO, I think counterfeit. At any rate, I see no signs of this being overstruck. I'd return this turd.

If you see the area over the star of the coin (in 2nd photo), there is a slight overlap - so I thought is a restruck and genuine.  Is that not how a restruck coin is? If I send to grading, will the confirm if it is genuine or not?

Thanks in advance!

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 3/17/2022 at 5:29 PM, Ragulkpm said:

If you see the area over the star of the coin (in 2nd photo), there is a slight overlap - so I thought is a restruck and genuine.  Is that not how a restruck coin is? If I send to grading, will the confirm if it is genuine or not?

If the coin was authentic possibly, but I see no other design elements of an 8 reales anywhere on the coin and when compared to other known examples it just doesn't stack up in my book. Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't have taken a flyer on this coin.  Not based on those images at any rate.

Edited March 17, 2022 by Fenntucky Mike

[JKK]

I see what you're saying, but I don't see any of the telltales I would expect from an overstruck coin. Color doesn't look right either. If the seller has mixed reviews that'd be about the end of it for me. I'll overlook an occasional neg as "everyone can run into a lunatic customer" but "mixed reviews" to me says "forget it."

[Just Bob]

What does the edge of your coin look like?

[RWB]

[PS: That's really "Ant Man" on the obverse.]

[Ragulkpm]

On 3/17/2022 at 8:55 PM, Just Bob said:

What does the edge of your coin look like?

There is a small pattern on the rim but nothing on the edge, attached the photos..

[Ragulkpm]

On 3/18/2022 at 9:25 AM, RWB said:

[PS: That's really "Ant Man" on the obverse.]

Sorry I don't understand, what does it mean? thanks.

[Just Bob]

On 3/18/2022 at 9:26 AM, Ragulkpm said:

There is a small pattern on the rim but nothing on the edge, attached the photos..

Thank you for the confirmation pictures. Your coin is a fake.

[Ragulkpm]

On 3/17/2022 at 7:55 PM, JKK said:

I see what you're saying, but I don't see any of the telltales I would expect from an overstruck coin. Color doesn't look right either. If the seller has mixed reviews that'd be about the end of it for me. I'll overlook an occasional neg as "everyone can run into a lunatic customer" but "mixed reviews" to me says "forget it."

 

On 3/18/2022 at 11:36 AM, Just Bob said:

Thank you for the confirmation pictures. Your coin is a fake.

 

On 3/17/2022 at 7:55 PM, JKK said:

I see what you're saying, but I don't see any of the telltales I would expect from an overstruck coin. Color doesn't look right either. If the seller has mixed reviews that'd be about the end of it for me. I'll overlook an occasional neg as "everyone can run into a lunatic customer" but "mixed reviews" to me says "forget it."

 

On 3/17/2022 at 6:52 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

If the coin was authentic possibly, but I see no other design elements of an 8 reales anywhere on the coin and when compared to other known examples it just doesn't stack up in my book. Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't have taken a flyer on this coin.  Not based on those images at any rate.

Thanks everyone. Checked with ebay and I am getting refund for this. I have come across fake ancient European coins but I didn't expect a fake Indian coin honestly