Deana2874 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) The line is melted into the T in trust and other oddities. What would this be called or considered. Is it mint mistake or environmental? Thank you for all your help. Edited February 19, 2022 by Deana2874 Picture added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bill347 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 coin abuse ! tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deana2874 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 So the melted line into the T on trust is coin abuse?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deana2874 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 People don't seem to be very friendly on this site. I thought this was to help beginners like me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) this is after coin production damage. someone abuse the poor little guy Edited February 19, 2022 by JT2 spell tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 That is known as PMD, Post Minting Damage. Anything that happens to a coin after it is ejected from the striking chamber is considered damage. Your cent has taken numerous hits including the rim above the “T” that has pushed the metal down into the T. JT2 and bsshog40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 9:45 AM, Deana2874 said: People don't seem to be very friendly on this site. I thought this was to help beginners like me? We ae somewhat weird. What you have is a normal coin that has been beat up during its travels in circulation. Coins get used for lots of proposes other than to buy things, many are at times used as tool, say you need to screw in a slot head screw but do not have a screwdriver. The penny comes to the rescue and does the job, however copper is very soft and can be easily damaged when used (or abused) in such a manor. This one looks to have spent some time in a parking lot, run over by cars and carts which has damaged the coin and left it with many scrapes and cuts. All of these damage is covered under the blanket term PMD (post mint damage), the coin did not leave the mint looking like this. tj96 and JT2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKK Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 8:40 AM, Deana2874 said: So the melted line into the T on trust is coin abuse?? The rim is not melted. It's smashed. This looks like a parking lot coin, in that it got stepped on or run over while laying around a parking lot. Especially the weight of shoes and tires running over it, pressing it into the small rocks in the blacktop and scraping it, does stuff like this to a coin. I do not believe it was deliberate abuse, just happened. Probably no one who contributed to this mess was aware they were doing it. As for unfriendliness, I'm not sure what you're seeing that would warrant that claim. You had your first reply within minutes, albeit not a very illuminating one, and no one has spoken abusively to you. You asked a question and have received polite answers. If that's unfriendliness, then I'm not sure what can be done. tj96 and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rummy13 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 @Deana2874, Hi and welcome, your coin has been damaged and abused after it left the mint. One of the things I ask myself when I look at coin like this is; How can this happen at the mint? The coin you showed (with very nice pics I might add) has damage that would not happen with in the press. JT2 and Deana2874 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Keep in mind, your coin had been floating around in circulation for 70 years! Deana2874 and JT2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deana2874 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) On 2/19/2022 at 12:17 PM, JKK said: The rim is not melted. It's smashed. This looks like a parking lot coin, in that it got stepped on or run over while laying around a parking lot. Especially the weight of shoes and tires running over it, pressing it into the small rocks in the blacktop and scraping it, does stuff like this to a coin. I do not believe it was deliberate abuse, just happened. Probably no one who contributed to this mess was aware they were doing it. As for unfriendliness, I'm not sure what you're seeing that would warrant that claim. You had your first reply within minutes, albeit not a very illuminating one, and no one has spoken abusively to you. You asked a question and have received polite answers. If that's unfriendliness, then I'm not sure what can be done. Well the reason I said that is because this isn't my first post. My first post immediately got a whatever you call it remark too. My 14 year old daughter saw the flaw/abuse as I'm teaching her to collect as well as myself in honor of her father that passed away and I know absolutely NOTHING about coins. So kindness can go a long way. Thank you everyone for your response and info. Maybe this just isn't for us after all. Edited February 19, 2022 by Deana2874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKK Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 2:07 PM, Deana2874 said: So kindness can go a long way. So can arriving without a sense of entitlement. Good luck. tj96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted February 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 3:07 PM, Deana2874 said: Well the reason I said that is because this isn't my first post. My first post immediately got a whatever you call it remark too. My 14 year old daughter saw the flaw/abuse as I'm teaching her to collect as well as myself in honor of her father that passed away and I know absolutely NOTHING about coins. So kindness can go a long way. Thank you everyone for your response and info. Maybe this just isn't for us after all. It is great that you want to bond with your daughter over coin collecting, I sure wish that either of my two daughters had shown any interest in coin collecting. Keep in mind that 99% of the people on this forum are not employed by NGC, we are just collectors and dealers that are freely sharing our many years of experience when we answer your questions. While you may want a more detailed explanation this is our free time that we are donating to help the hobby, so when we know what we are looking at (bty thanks for the excellent photos as that helps us to give you answers) we simply answer the question without writing a book on it. In order to learn you must be willing to accept the information, that is why in many threads you will see several posts all saying the same thing, we are corroborating the information that you have already received. If you really want to bond with your daughter then I suggest that some time spent reading and learning about the process of how coins are made now and throughout history would be the best thing you can do for yourself and her. That way you and she will learn how a coin is made and conversely how the type of damage you see on your coin in this thread could not have been done during the minting process. There are many references available sometimes at your local library, one such resource is a book titled "From Mine to Mint" written by one of our forum members. Once you have some knowledge you will be in a better position to teach her and begin to collect, knowledge first collect second. Woods020, JT2, Mr.Bill347 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bill347 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Deanna I was the first to respond sorry to be terse. We see a lot of damaged coins and so many it becomes somewhat not exciting. We aren’t a bunch of crabby old people. Welcome to the coin forum and please continue to post questions here. Your photos are adequate as is your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fenntucky Mike Posted February 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 8:55 AM, Mr.Bill347 said: We aren’t a bunch of crabby old people. Nope, I'm middle aged crabby. Woods020, Rummy13 and Mr.Bill347 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
