Ron Smith Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 This 1886 Type one is a business strike but has an incredible strike and luster. The 1898 is beautiful gold tone. I feel they should grade quite well GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member: Seasoned Veteran DWLange Posted December 13, 2021 Member: Seasoned Veteran Share Posted December 13, 2021 Do you have a question? Mohawk and Morpheus1967 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Smith Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 I'm thinking 66 Brown on the 1886 and a 65-66 Red on the 1898. The two small carbon spots on the 86 or I would have a real shot at a 67. The strike color and luster on this coin looks much better than the only 67 brown NGC graded close to 20 years ago in a magnified look I saw of it sold on a Heritage auction in my opinion. The strike is prooflike. This 1898 proof Indian is another I am submitting. Great strike and color. Near flawless. I'm thinking a 66 Brown on this one too. Anyway I have a pic of the only 67 1886 Type one NGC has graded. I just don't see the same quality as mine. I would think the blotches and a few small hits would be more of an annoying than two pin sized spots. My probably biased opinion of course GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Ron, if these are the coins from the other thread...send 'em in and let us know when they are graded. It will answer ALL questions and provide some good back-and-forth on the results. Good Luck ! Mohawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 10:26 AM, GoldFinger1969 said: Ron, if these are the coins from the other thread...send 'em in and let us know when they are graded. It will answer ALL questions and provide some good back-and-forth on the results. Good Luck ! Yep. Time to just send them in, Ron. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus1967 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Are these the same coins that were going to be sent in in August??? Where you said the carbon spots would not bring the grade down past a 67? Mohawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 1:34 PM, Morpheus1967 said: Are these the same coins that were going to be sent in in August??? Where you said the carbon spots would not bring the grade down past a 67? Yep. They're the very same coins and the very same guy. He needs to just send the damned things in and stop trying to sell his grading views to everyone once again. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 It looks like they are already in a slab and graded. Ron, what's the grade given ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Are you legitimately asking NGC to do for free, what their business is based on (grade coins)? Suppose they give you an opinion from the pictures, which is the best anyone could do, and when you actually pony up to get them graded they were lower than the opinion from pictures? You would be yelling from the roof tops about a massive conspiracy. If you want them graded submit them. I promise NGC will be happy to grade them. Hoghead515 and Mohawk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 12:42 PM, Mohawk said: Yep. They're the very same coins and the very same guy. He needs to just send the damned things in and stop trying to sell his grading views to everyone once again. It’s really going to be a bad day if that 1898 comes back questionable color…… Time will tell Mohawk and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 8:03 PM, Woods020 said: It’s really going to be a bad day if that 1898 comes back questionable color…… Time will tell If that's the case, then I think it's going to be a bad day for ol' Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Send 'em in. Yes, it'll be the source of many a sleepless night while they are away from you, but all the "sales job" in the world on this forum will not change their grade one iota. The only reason to hold them now is to get more coins together to spread out the fixed costs. I do that all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Smith Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 12:37 PM, VKurtB said: Send 'em in. Yes, it'll be the source of many a sleepless night while they are away from you, but all the "sales job" in the world on this forum will not change their grade one iota. The only reason to hold them now is to get more coins together to spread out the fixed costs. I do that all the time. On 12/14/2021 at 7:24 PM, Mohawk said: If that's the case, then I think it's going to be a bad day for ol' Ron. On 12/15/2021 at 12:37 PM, VKurtB said: Send 'em in. Yes, it'll be the source of many a sleepless night while they are away from you, but all the "sales job" in the world on this forum will not change their grade one iota. The only reason to hold them now is to get more coins together to spread out the fixed costs. I do that all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Smith Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 12:37 PM, VKurtB said: Send 'em in. Yes, it'll be the source of many a sleepless night while they are away from you, but all the "sales job" in the world on this forum will not change their grade one iota. The only reason to hold them now is to get more coins together to spread out the fixed costs. I do that all the time. On 12/15/2021 at 12:37 PM, VKurtB said: Send 'em in. Yes, it'll be the source of many a sleepless night while they are away from you, but all the "sales job" in the world on this forum will not change their grade one iota. The only reason to hold them now is to get more coins together to spread out the fixed costs. I do that all the time. Well if thats the case this 66 Proof Brown 1885 NGC must be questionable color too. Its a bookend to my 98. I was hoping to get someome who was into Indian Heads when I got away from the water cooler bunch but I guess you guys are all over the place. I have over 100 UNC Indians and have been real busy. I see the insults are non stop here. Finding anyone on here that specializes on Indian Head Cents seems to be impossible I guess. Indian Proofs of the purple blue tone is very common. If you go on Ebay right now there are two dealers that have plenty of them up for sale. They probably sell more graded NGC coins than anyone on ebay. All I can say is I hope you guys aren't graders for them. It kind of looks like you would be a little bias the way you have been treating me I probably won't have a chance. I have sent many coins into NGC and PCGS in the past and have about an 85% grading avg. Anyway. If you have some copper to view let me have a crack at them. I will be very honest too. Ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Smith Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 My mistake The 1885 Brown proof in this picture is a 67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 What is the over/under on how many threads Ron will start on this coin without ever sending it in. Mohawk and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Mohawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morpheus1967 Posted December 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 5:09 AM, Ron Smith said: My mistake I can think of a few more..... Mohawk, Hoghead515 and Coinbuf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) On 12/16/2021 at 4:02 AM, Ron Smith said: Well if thats the case this 66 Proof Brown 1885 NGC must be questionable color too. Its a bookend to my 98. I was hoping to get someome who was into Indian Heads when I got away from the water cooler bunch but I guess you guys are all over the place. I have over 100 UNC Indians and have been real busy. I see the insults are non stop here. Finding anyone on here that specializes on Indian Head Cents seems to be impossible I guess. Indian Proofs of the purple blue tone is very common. If you go on Ebay right now there are two dealers that have plenty of them up for sale. They probably sell more graded NGC coins than anyone on ebay. All I can say is I hope you guys aren't graders for them. It kind of looks like you would be a little bias the way you have been treating me I probably won't have a chance. I have sent many coins into NGC and PCGS in the past and have about an 85% grading avg. Anyway. If you have some copper to view let me have a crack at them. I will be very honest too. Ha ha I NEVER GRADE COINS FROM PHOTOGRAPHS, EVER! NO ONE SHOULD! EVER! Edited December 16, 2021 by VKurtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 11:16 AM, Coinbuf said: What is the over/under on how many threads Ron will start on this coin without ever sending it in. I don't know....that's going to depend on if he wants to try to steal the record from SlickCoins or not, I think. Hoghead515 and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
