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1919S Lincoln Cent PMD or other???
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Hello all. I recently picked up this Lincoln cent and really bought it because of the odd spot on the rim on the reverse above “UNUM”. I don’t know if this is just PMD or something else like a type of lamination or what. If it is not PMD, I am not really sure what this would be classified as. I’m not looking to have it graded or anything like that. I am just curious as to what the other members have to say. I hope these pics are good enough. If not, let me know and I will try to post better ones. Thanks.7A8D3E87-3F03-4A67-ACEA-E281AAD3A033.thumb.jpeg.2f1a6be228fede024e8679538df301df.jpegF917FA75-961C-4F09-95E0-6DD3D98589C4.thumb.jpeg.7e779c4cc83c8f032a11751ff7ce33e7.jpeg77376C92-A742-4897-B217-104B5CCA3CE9.thumb.jpeg.350cd665a55ca1d839366a1916be924b.jpeg35387EE3-4194-47EF-B830-399403D1105A.thumb.jpeg.5dbabf55f28ebc1a66775bfcfe7f3227.jpeg5FF0B809-6981-4B9E-B52E-B80FB045439F.thumb.jpeg.d31f0666e34c9d43890b04235db3d6f4.jpeg1320D2B9-E02E-4CF1-88C0-80C2A15CC4AF.thumb.jpeg.75ac8d5afe33a6fe91ec0d10c7ad310c.jpeg

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On 9/14/2021 at 5:08 PM, Mohawk said:

Hi LemE,

Looks like a cud to me.  I'm sure others will chime in, but my vote goes with cud.

I thought possibly cud at first, but it looks like it is slightly peeled back off the rim.

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On 9/14/2021 at 6:11 PM, Lem E said:

I thought possibly cud at first, but it looks like it is slightly peeled back off the rim.

Oh, I could definitely be wrong.  But from the pics, I definitely think cud.  But, as always, it could be different with the coin in hand.

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On 9/14/2021 at 5:29 PM, Mohawk said:

Oh, I could definitely be wrong.  But from the pics, I definitely think cud.  But, as always, it could be different with the coin in hand.

I’m definitely not saying you are wrong. Im going to try and get a better look and maybe a better shot. I guess this is one of those times I need a scope.

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Well when I first looked I thought rim cud then I read your "peeled back" comments, looked again and now I'm not sure. I'm seeing 6's and 🌟's all over the coin now so I'm gonna let this simmer for a bit and do a bit of reading up on this.

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It doesn't seem like there is extra material there, which was kind of taking me away from a cud. It almost looks like something got underneath the rim and just peeled it back a slight bit. I feel like I could get something underneath the crack and peel it back some more. Not that I would do that of course. I’m still looking at it. Here is a shot of the edge. These pics are not coming out well. I apologize for that.1429A953-3C43-4191-B73E-71A9FE8D5D69.thumb.jpeg.92988f87104b5b6e9bcbb6437c7ea3a7.jpeg

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On 9/14/2021 at 6:04 PM, J P Mashoke said:

Vice grips should do the trick give it a good yank Lem :whatthe:

I’d love to stick an exacto knife in there just to see if it is a cavity or a ridge. It wasn’t listed as an UNC and I didn’t buy it as an UNC, but it is pretty clean. Even has touches of red still.

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On 9/14/2021 at 6:13 PM, J P Mashoke said:

It looks like a $20 penny I would let it be.

No, I wouldn’t dig around in it. It did resemble the bottom left pic from the link. To me, it doesn’t look like extra metal sitting on top of the rim. I could be very wrong. It could be anything or it could be nothing at all. I just thought it was interesting and wanted to know the others thoughts. Thanks all for your input. It is always appreciated.

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Here are a few more shots that may or may not help. I can’t get a good angle shot inside the rim. The bottom pic is with the flash on.

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On 9/14/2021 at 9:41 PM, Woods020 said:

No reason for a cud to be missing material under it. It’s the opposite. Not sure what but I still vote damage seeing the displaced metal. 

Okay....now that changes things.  I did not realize this aspect of the coin when I first replied.  Given this new information, I have to vote damaged as well.

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