Lem E Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Hello all. I recently picked up this Lincoln cent and really bought it because of the odd spot on the rim on the reverse above “UNUM”. I don’t know if this is just PMD or something else like a type of lamination or what. If it is not PMD, I am not really sure what this would be classified as. I’m not looking to have it graded or anything like that. I am just curious as to what the other members have to say. I hope these pics are good enough. If not, let me know and I will try to post better ones. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Hi LemE, Looks like a cud to me. I'm sure others will chime in, but my vote goes with cud. Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 5:08 PM, Mohawk said: Hi LemE, Looks like a cud to me. I'm sure others will chime in, but my vote goes with cud. I thought possibly cud at first, but it looks like it is slightly peeled back off the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 6:11 PM, Lem E said: I thought possibly cud at first, but it looks like it is slightly peeled back off the rim. Oh, I could definitely be wrong. But from the pics, I definitely think cud. But, as always, it could be different with the coin in hand. Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Nice cud Bud. I bet it was a lot bigger100 years ago . But maybe not, there is not much wear on that penny Edited September 14, 2021 by J P Mashoke Lem E and Mohawk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 5:29 PM, Mohawk said: Oh, I could definitely be wrong. But from the pics, I definitely think cud. But, as always, it could be different with the coin in hand. I’m definitely not saying you are wrong. Im going to try and get a better look and maybe a better shot. I guess this is one of those times I need a scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Well when I first looked I thought rim cud then I read your "peeled back" comments, looked again and now I'm not sure. I'm seeing 6's and 🌟's all over the coin now so I'm gonna let this simmer for a bit and do a bit of reading up on this. Rummy13 and Lem E 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 this one at the bottom of the page. http://www.error-ref.com/chipped-collar/ Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) It doesn't seem like there is extra material there, which was kind of taking me away from a cud. It almost looks like something got underneath the rim and just peeled it back a slight bit. I feel like I could get something underneath the crack and peel it back some more. Not that I would do that of course. I’m still looking at it. Here is a shot of the edge. These pics are not coming out well. I apologize for that. Edited September 15, 2021 by Lem E Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J P M Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 Vice grips should do the trick give it a good yank Lem Rummy13, Lem E and Fenntucky Mike 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 6:04 PM, J P Mashoke said: Vice grips should do the trick give it a good yank Lem I’d love to stick an exacto knife in there just to see if it is a cavity or a ridge. It wasn’t listed as an UNC and I didn’t buy it as an UNC, but it is pretty clean. Even has touches of red still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 It looks like a $20 penny I would let it be. Lem E and Modwriter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 6:13 PM, J P Mashoke said: It looks like a $20 penny I would let it be. No, I wouldn’t dig around in it. It did resemble the bottom left pic from the link. To me, it doesn’t look like extra metal sitting on top of the rim. I could be very wrong. It could be anything or it could be nothing at all. I just thought it was interesting and wanted to know the others thoughts. Thanks all for your input. It is always appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 My vote is some kind of damage. It looks like it was used to pry something open like a paint can or something with a circular lid. You can see where it is angled at the rim where it stops. Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Head Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Looks to be a cud. Not sure but a cool , Lincoln Edited September 15, 2021 by Buffalo Head Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 My vote is a small, retained cud. Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lem E Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Here are a few more shots that may or may not help. I can’t get a good angle shot inside the rim. The bottom pic is with the flash on. Edited September 15, 2021 by Lem E Woods020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 No reason for a cud to be missing material under it. It’s the opposite. Not sure what but I still vote damage seeing the displaced metal. Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I vote damage, also. Lem E and Woods020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 9:41 PM, Woods020 said: No reason for a cud to be missing material under it. It’s the opposite. Not sure what but I still vote damage seeing the displaced metal. Okay....now that changes things. I did not realize this aspect of the coin when I first replied. Given this new information, I have to vote damaged as well. Woods020 and Lem E 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Beer bottle opener. Good round 2 pics Lem. Edited September 15, 2021 by Fenntucky Mike Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 From the initial photos I was thinking a cud; from the new photos I am thinking it might be a retained lamination planchet defect or damage. Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
