Is this It, What we have all been looking for. 1 1

[J P M]

I know we have all heard of it but I can believe I found it in a bank roll of pennies, What luck I am going to have to send this one in for sure. Or maybe that guy in Washington can ask 55,000 for his penny what would this be worth on the WEB it is in way better shape than his. 

Edited August 13, 2021 by J P Mashoke

[Fenntucky Mike]

WAKA, WAKA, WAKA, WAKA

[GBrad]

NO DOUBT..... I would truly consider that a 'clipped planchet' all day long!!!! And a good one at that!!!

Edited August 13, 2021 by GBrad

[James Zyskowski]

Value like that you better deliver in person to grading service and or think about armored car 

[Mohawk]

Oh no......I have to admit I was wrong....there IS a Pac Man penny!!!  It's a 1982 and not a 1977-D, but there it is!!! Now, you need to go post that baby on Etsy with a $100,000 price tag and just wait for it to get snapped right up!!! Shouldn't take long........

[Oldhoopster]

Ragged Fissure.  Very nice find

 

http://www.error-ref.com/fissures_-_ragged___smooth/

[GBrad]

On 8/13/2021 at 3:19 PM, Oldhoopster said:

Ragged Fissure.  Very nice find

 

http://www.error-ref.com/fissures_-_ragged___smooth/

Upon further investigation, are you saying this is a Mint Error?  I viewed your link and I now have questions. 

[J P M]

On 8/14/2021 at 12:23 AM, GBrad said:

Upon further investigation, are you saying this is a Mint Error?  I viewed your link and I now have questions. 

Yes it is GBrad it came out of the press like that or the chip came out not long after.  I am not sure what it would be worth ? Errors are a strange thing to grade It would take someone with a lot more experience than me to take a guess on what that penny would be worth or where to sell it ? Maybe a coin for Heritage to look at. .

[Mohawk]

On 8/14/2021 at 4:21 PM, J P Mashoke said:

Yes it is GBrad it came out of the press like that or the chip came out not long after.  I am not sure what it would be worth ? Errors are a strange thing to grade It would take someone with a lot more experience than me to take a guess on what that penny would be worth or where to sell it ? Maybe a coin for Heritage to look at. .

It's actually a mint error?  I've never heard of a ragged fissure before.  I'm shocked!! I thought for sure it was a victim of someone going crazy with metal snips.  This "Pac-Man" may actually be worth something......I'll be damned!  Even after 22 years of doing this, I still learn new things all the time in this hobby.

Edited August 14, 2021 by Mohawk

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 8/14/2021 at 4:21 PM, J P Mashoke said:

Yes it is GBrad it came out of the press like that or the chip came out not long after.  I am not sure what it would be worth ? Errors are a strange thing to grade It would take someone with a lot more experience than me to take a guess on what that penny would be worth or where to sell it ? Maybe a coin for Heritage to look at. .

Not sure what it would be worth, is it on the same level as a delamination or clipped planchet.  If it less common it could be worth more. I'm not sure if it's worth grading but it wouldn't hurt to ask NGC if they would attribute such an error. Nice find JP! 

[J P M]

On 8/14/2021 at 4:49 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Not sure what it would be worth, is it on the same level as a delamination or clipped planchet.  If it less common it could be worth more. I'm not sure if it's worth grading but it wouldn't hurt to ask NGC if they would attribute such an error. Nice find JP! 

Yes maybe Mr. D.W. Lange From NGC or Mark Feld from Heritage will see this thread and give it a look see. There are a few other regulars here that may have a guess also. It is a cool looking coin no matter what the outcome. 

[Mohawk]

On 8/14/2021 at 5:14 PM, J P Mashoke said:

Yes maybe Mr. D.W. Lange From NGC or Mark Feld from Heritage will see this thread and give it a look see. There are a few other regulars here that may have a guess also. It is a cool looking coin no matter what the outcome. 

You could also post it in the Ask NGC/NCS section.....you may have better luck getting Mr. Lange's attention in that thread.

[J P M]

On 8/14/2021 at 5:17 PM, Mohawk said:

You could also post it in the Ask NGC/NCS section.....you may have better luck getting Mr. Lange's attention in that thread.

I posted it there also 

[Mohawk]

On 8/14/2021 at 6:16 PM, J P Mashoke said:

I posted it there also 

Good Luck!!

[GBrad]

On 8/14/2021 at 4:32 PM, Mohawk said:

It's actually a mint error?  I've never heard of a ragged fissure before.  I'm shocked!! I thought for sure it was a victim of someone going crazy with metal snips.  This "Pac-Man" may actually be worth something......I'll be damned!  Even after 22 years of doing this, I still learn new things all the time in this hobby.

Yes. Me too!  I thought it was PMD at first but now I think I have learned something new after researching this. 

[James Zyskowski]

I believe I stand corrected as well. Metallurgy is fascinating.  I sure do like that coin JP   Keep us posted please 🤓

[J P M]

On 8/13/2021 at 3:19 PM, Oldhoopster said:

Ragged Fissure.  Very nice find

 

http://www.error-ref.com/fissures_-_ragged___smooth/

Thanks to Oldhoopster for the link, I was trying to find it on error.com but there are so many it was taking forever and then he popped it up here. 

[DWLange]

The only issue I have with that coin is that there's no weakness of strike adjacent to the void. I would expect the coin's rim to fade into the void if it had existed at the time of striking. In any case, NGC's mint error attributor is David Camire, so this would be his call.

[J P M]

On 8/15/2021 at 5:24 PM, DWLange said:

The only issue I have with that coin is that there's no weakness of strike adjacent to the void. I would expect the coin's rim to fade into the void if it had existed at the time of striking. In any case, NGC's mint error attributor is David Camire, so this would be his call.

Thank you for your time DWLange. Perhaps David Camire will be able to take a look during working hours if he looks at the ask NGC tread or here.  

Edited August 16, 2021 by J P Mashoke

[GBrad]

I have to apologize to the entire forum for my ignorance regarding my first post in this thread.  I thought you (JP) posted this Linc., as a joke, regarding the other recent 'ridiculous'  post we are familiar with.  My sincere apologies.  When Oldhoopster posted about (which I am grateful for, thanks!), and supplied a link to a ragged fissure it got my wheels spinning. I researched this type of error and we are now to the point in this thread of hopefully having an NGC mint error attributor comment on your coin JP....(with the help of numerous other members).  Hopefully NGC's David Camire will take a look at this coin... very interesting now that I see it may be a real error.  I really hope it turns out to be an error even if it is not worth a premium. I just love mint errors, especially on Lincs (sorry VKurt). Really looking forward to any feedback.

Edited August 16, 2021 by GBrad

[James Zyskowski]

On 8/15/2021 at 7:56 AM, James Zyskowski said:

I believe I stand corrected as well. Metallurgy is fascinating.  I sure do like that coin JP   Keep us posted please 🤓

Brad
your not alone it’s been crazy around here and I , like you, am a little flustered too. We’re all good now let’s learn more 🤓

Edited August 16, 2021 by James Zyskowski

[Hinkle]

I just wanted to add, there's a 2007-D SMS 10c obverse die cap mint error MS68 graded by NGC that looks just like the OP pics. There not mentioning that part of the error on the coin just die cap. Here's the cert# 3237029-002. Hope this helps with any kind of ideas. 

[GBrad]

On 8/16/2021 at 9:14 AM, Hinkle said:

I just wanted to add, there's a 2007-D SMS 10c obverse die cap mint error MS68 graded by NGC that looks just like the OP pics. There not mentioning that part of the error on the coin just die cap. Here's the cert# 3237029-002. Hope this helps with any kind of ideas. 

That's one gnarly die cap there man! I can definitely see how a die cap of that magnitude would cause the fissures on that dime.  Thanks for sharing.  

[Hinkle]

On 8/16/2021 at 11:06 AM, GBrad said:

That's one gnarly die cap there man! I can definitely see how a die cap of that magnitude would cause the fissures on that dime.  Thanks for sharing.  

Yes pretty interesting coin. I'll just be honest, if they were to call these types of errors like the penny on the OP pics a Pac-Man, they would have done so way back. That is a cool looking coin and resembles a Pac-Man figure. Coins like this just keeps me hunting that much more for stuff like that. Good luck to JP on getting his coin looked at.

[VKurtB]

This cent may have been bitten by actor Richard Kiel. Call me old-fashioned but I like the Roger Moore Bond movies best. On a related note, I have seen way too much biting of Olympic medals lately. Clearly these wonderful athletes lack a little in the gray matter department.

[Just Bob]

On 8/16/2021 at 11:09 PM, VKurtB said:

... On a related note, I have seen way too much biting of Olympic medals lately. Clearly these wonderful athletes lack a little in the gray matter department.

I have a feeling that the photographers put them up to  it, but, yes, I agree it looks dumb. If I were in that position, I would refuse to do it.

Since we are on the subject, sort of: Wearing the US flag draped across your shoulders is a breach of flag etiquette. This should be taught to these athletes. A victory lap around the track holding a small flag would show national pride without disrespecting our symbol.

[VKurtB]

On 8/16/2021 at 11:33 PM, Just Bob said:

I have a feeling that the photographers put them up to  it, but, yes, I agree it looks dumb. If I were in that position, I would refuse to do it.

Since we are on the subject, sort of: Wearing the US flag draped across your shoulders is a breach of flag etiquette. This should be taught to these athletes. A victory lap around the track holding a small flag would show national pride without disrespecting our symbol.

George Foreman, boxing. 1968? 1972?

[GBrad]

There are numerous ways in which the American Flag can be disrespected and most all Americans have absolutely no clue about this.  Yes, draping the Flag over you as a wrap, or wearing it as piece of attire, is completely disrespectful.  A quick Google search of the United States of America Military Flag Code will show the proper, and improper, ways of displaying and using our Precious Flag.  I doubt those who don or wear our Flag, athletes here in particular, have any idea whatsoever about the proper etiquette associated with the U.S. Flag.  I'm saddened to say that Americans have gone by the wayside when it comes to such important matters as this.  Coming from a Military and Law Enforcement family and background taught me the proper ways to address, display and handle our U.S. Flag, thankfully so.  I can't hold those whom have never had any teaching about this subject at fault, but... the parents of these people I can say otherwise.  I do think that as a God Blessed American one should have the common sense and courtesy to learn about something that is SO very important to our Nation and Country and which is THE symbol of freedom which we are still so blessed to have. I'm off my soapbox now......

Edited August 17, 2021 by GBrad

[James Zyskowski]

GBrad when I was a kid in grammar school ( grammar school 😂 I’m old) I was 3rd grade and on the flag detail. Well I dropped it when we were trying to raise it. Perhaps those who don’t know can pay attention. All holy hell broke loose I was shamed whole school knew they burned the old one and wow after my required paper on respect for the flag. I learned.  Thanks I hadn’t thought about that in many years. Oh ya when I got home how do you think that went !  Grandpa WW1 submarines pop w WW2 navy stateside supply CPO. Ya🙀😳

[GBrad]

On 8/17/2021 at 9:07 AM, James Zyskowski said:

I was 3rd grade and on the flag detail. Well I dropped it when we were trying to raise it.

Reminds me of when I was in the Police Academy a loooooong time ago.  Had a mishap there myself.  We had flag detail everyday for the 6 month school.  I just happened to be our class leader...... Somehow, and to this day I have no idea how it happened unless it was from shear exhaustion after some harsh physical training before sunrise, the flag got put on upside-down on the rope clips.  Raising the flag in a very fast manner is mandatory.  Halfway up, this stupid mistake was quickly noticed.  Boy... you should have seen how fast we brought it back down!! While at the same time hoping and praying none of our Command Staff saw the mistake or else I may not be here today to tell this story.