Cresencio Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Hi Guys, l need your help about this coin and just want to clarify if the mint mark D/P, if does can l get any thoughts for me to learn and additional knowledge about this coin and can l get extra premium? thanks and really appreciate!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Can you post some pictures of the MM close up? It will either be strike doubling or die erosion. The mint stopped hand punching MMs beginning in 1990 for cents and nickels and in 1991 for the remainder. They are part of the master die so an OMM or RPM isn’t possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 1:01 PM, Woods020 said: The mint stopped hand punching MMs beginning in 1990 for cents and nickels and in 1991 for the remainder. They are part of the master die so an OMM or RPM isn’t possible. There is one way they could still happen (but as far as I know no examples are known). You would have to have a working hub sunk from both a P and a D Master die. In theory this could have happened during time period of 1990 to 1996 because Philadelphia was still making dies for both Philadelphia and Denver during those years. After 1996 Denver began making their own dies so such an error could not occur after that. Since this is a 1999 it can't be an overmintmark. It is pretty much certainly die deterioration. Crawtomatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrad Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Agree with all said above. Would not be possible to have a mint error OMM or RPM for this Nickel. Die deterioration gets my vote. I've personally seen tons of these in my searching. Looks convincing, but not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 One thing I forgot to add, around that time Philadelphia went to the single squeeze hubbing (Denver started earlier) so you couldn't even have an apparent RPM from a slight misalignment between hubbings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cresencio Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 Hi guys here is another picture, hope this might help.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Conder101 Posted August 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2021 Machine doubling. Notice it is also on the date digits. Crawtomatic, Coinbuf and James Zyskowski 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 12:43 PM, Conder101 said: Machine doubling. Notice it is also on the date digits. Yes this ^ This happens when one of the dies becomes loose and when struck the die bounces and creates an off center second image lower in relief than the first which is commonly called MD or machine doubling. The other coin is suffering from a different issue, those dies were used well past their prime and what you see there is die deterioration doubling. Both of these are very common and can be found on hundreds of thousands of coins, neither have any numismatic premium. James Zyskowski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member: Seasoned Veteran DWLange Posted August 12, 2021 Member: Seasoned Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2021 I would describe that as die erosion doubling, since it's a repeating effect with each coin struck from the dies in that late state. The term die abrasion doubling is used also by some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 But isn't die erosion doubling typically on the side away from the center of the coin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...