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CONFIRMED 1919-P Mercury DDO Discovery!!!
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CaptHenway

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We variety mavens are still discussing amongst ourselves why the dot between IN and GOD is doubled on the Discovery Specimen but not on the higher grade piece. Tis' a puzzlement!

 

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CaptHenway

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Mystery of the dot solved. Bill Fivaz took a picture of the obverse of the XF coin that clearly shows the doubling on the dot. The closeup of the motto that did not show the doubled dot was just a fluke of the lighting.

 

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StrikeOutXXX

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Seems Dave Lange and his variety team are ahead of the curve on this one. :)

 

http://www.ngccoin.com/coin-varieties/mercury-dimes/1919-ddo-10c-fs-101-5636

 

I'm hoping enough coins are found to make this a collectable variety. Various online and print coin news outlets should start running Tom DeLorey's press release this week, so more eyes should help.

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KeyMan64

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No weekend finds?
Not for me. As I reported ATS, I went to the Sarasota Coin Show on Friday when it first opened. I ended up searching at least three dozen 1919 examples with no success. I asked at each table if they had Mercs in folders or boxes that were not shown in the case so I tried to make sure I left NO EXAMPLES unsearched at the show. I saw 1919 examples ranging from G-AU and one slider. I will continue my search. :)
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nwcs

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Very cool! Time to go through my mom's collection. A lot of mercs my grandfather saved in the 50s and 60s. Off the market since.

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Coin World just added this to their news section. Let the wide-scale searching begin!

 

http://www.coinworld.com/news/new-doubled-die-obverse-found-on-1919-dime.html

 

I am surprised that they did not mention Jeff Sam's name in the bulletin.

 

Would they have needed his permission to release his name?

 

Chris

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StrikeOutXXX

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Coin World just added this to their news section. Let the wide-scale searching begin!

 

http://www.coinworld.com/news/new-doubled-die-obverse-found-on-1919-dime.html

 

I am surprised that they did not mention Jeff Sam's name in the bulletin.

 

Mr. Gibbs said the print version is a much more extensive article.

 

He did put my name in the photo credit though.

 

 

The Capt typed up a nice press release with some of the history of the coin and the details of the find and sent it out last week. I'm sure much of it will be used in the print article. Can't wait!

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Coin World's full article is now online:

 

http://www.coinworld.com/insights/1919-winged-liberty-head-dime-has-doubled-die-obverse.html#

 

They put a teaser story out a few days ago, and I saw one person say they found one on Facebook, but the post was removed, not sure if they were kidding, or they got tired of the bombardment of "Sell it to me" posts, but I still don't know of a 3rd piece being discovered yet.

 

Hopefully the print article will uncover some more.

 

Jeff

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KeyMan64

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Won't somebody please find another one this weekend???
:taptaptap:

 

(shrug)

 

Maybe everyone is just waiting for me to find a Mint State Top Pop like I have done for many of the other varieties? I wish...but it won't be this weekend since there are no good shows around.

 

:roflmao:

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coinman_23885

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Specimen #2 received by Bill FIvaz and confirmed as same doubled die! No additonal doubling seen on head or designer's initials. Photos sent to Ken Bressett and Q. David Bowers for consideration of inclusion in the Redbook.

 

Tom DeLorey

 

How many would you estimate exist? Is there any principled way to know at this point?

 

Very neat and congratulations OP!

 

 

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KeyMan64

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Specimen #2 received by Bill FIvaz and confirmed as same doubled die! No additonal doubling seen on head or designer's initials. Photos sent to Ken Bressett and Q. David Bowers for consideration of inclusion in the Redbook.

 

Tom DeLorey

 

How many would you estimate exist? Is there any principled way to know at this point?

 

Very neat and congratulations OP!

 

We need to fast forward a couple of years in order to guess. There is a 1941 DDO FS-101 that has 4 examples known after a decade plus of searching, only one of which is in Mint State. It of course happens to be the toned MS65 example that I Cherrypicked raw for $45 and sold at auction for $1,750. :) Then there is a 1939-D/D FS-501 that only only has 5 examples attributed ATS...and I of course Cherrypicked that Top Pop (tied) in MS65FB in a SEGS 64FB holder, had it attributed and just auctioned it for $2,500 or something like that. And many others I have had success with in Cherrypicking the Top Pop and selling it.

 

My point is there are MANY Mercury Dime Varieties that people have been searching for for over a decade and only a few are known....and these are later dates. For 1919, there are a lot fewer examples to search through which will create a challenge but this one has attracted a lot more attention so that will help. Maybe they will balance each other out and in a decade we might have a few to really evaluate.

 

As for the 1941 DDO, I feel it is rather significant, although not as significant as the 1919. Here are a couple of pics of mine that I sold.

1941_DDO_FS-101_PCGS_MS65.jpg

 

1941_DDO_FS-101_PCGS_MS65_MOTTO.jpg

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StrikeOutXXX

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Interesting little video about our famous dime here at Coin World:

 

http://www.coinworld.com/videos/2015/march/monday-morning-brief-mar-9-2015.html]http://www.coinworld.com/videos/2015/march/monday-morning-brief-mar-9-2015.html]http://www.coinworld.com/videos/2015/march/monday-morning-brief-mar-9-2015.html

 

The first step Mr. Gibbs gives to this being a success is "A lot of 'em are gonna have to be found" !!!

So I am sending lucky vibes to everyone who is actively searching!

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KeyMan64

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Interesting little video about our famous dime here at Coin World:

 

http://www.coinworld.com/videos/2015/march/monday-morning-brief-mar-9-2015.html]http://www.coinworld.com/videos/2015/march/monday-morning-brief-mar-9-2015.html]http://www.coinworld.com/videos/2015/march/monday-morning-brief-mar-9-2015.html

 

The first step Mr. Gibbs gives to this being a success is "A lot of 'em are gonna have to be found" !!!

So I am sending lucky vibes to everyone who is actively searching!

 

Statements that I DISAGREE with in the video:

The series isn't widely known for a lot of die varieties.

- Has he ever looked at a Cherrpickers' Guide?

- Does he know who Bill Fivaz, JT Stanton, Kevin Flynn or John Wexler are? Has he ever explored CONECA's site? Has he ever viewed nice large high res photos of the varieties blessed by the TPGs in their registries. hm

 

Then he tries to clarify his statement with the 1942/1 and 1942/1-D. Okay fine, I see what he is doing here, he should have originally said MAJOR REDBOOK varieties that bring a LOT of MONEY. But even the REDBOOK mentions a few that have large and small mintmarks and then there is the 1945 micro s.

 

Then he says there are a "few minor ones."

I am now convinced this guy does not know what he is talking about. There are soooo many accepted/blessed somewhat minor ones that is difficult to even keep up. There are well over 100, granted even I will declare many of them minor. I consider there to be close to 40+ that are SIGNIFICANT Ugh.

 

Then he says "a lot have to be found." I again disagree. 5-10 found will be enough. If you somehow think that only two being known will prevent interest in the coin, that just seems crazy to me. If a dozen plus are found, it will be easier for a market/ or price guide listings to happen but he certainly did not go there with that. I sold many varieties that have gone for over $1,000...that is more money than a 1942/1 in EF by the way. I have sold others for over $2K....that is more money than a 1942/1 in AU58! I think he needs to be better educated on what might be minor and major and how these markets work.

 

It is a bit annoying to me when possibly well known generalists try to share their knowledge in a place that just doesn't seem right. I am so happy that this coin has come to light and I am happy that it has gotten a lot of mainstream coin attention but some of this attention is dumbing down the general coin market.

 

I am one of the few that know Mercury Dime varieties AND their markets the best. I have cherrypicked the best, made tons of TOP POPS and SOLD them, some at auctions where I started the bidding at $1. None of the other authors/specialists have done this. NONE! I am just a crazed internet monkey I guess....since I have not written a book yet. Although, I have talked about writing a book that CORRECTS all of the errors that have been published about Mercury Dime varieties...I just have not had the energy to do it. /rant

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I am one of the few that know Mercury Dime varieties AND their markets the best. I have cherrypicked the best, made tons of TOP POPS and SOLD them, some at auctions where I started the bidding at $1. None of the other authors/specialists have done this. NONE! I am just a crazed internet monkey I guess....since I have not written a book yet.

 

Maybe you have found your calling. If I were you, I would seriously work on a Mercury Dime variety reference. Nice 1941 by the way.

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StrikeOutXXX

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Just wanted to thank ANACS, Paul DeFelice, and Christian for getting this done for me so fast. I really appreciate you reaching out to me for this.

 

The dime was on this week's cover of Coin World, among other places - hopefully that will be the nudge to get collectors checking their own coins and hit the shows this weekend to find more.

 

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Graded1919R_zpsbwceczow.jpg

 

 

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