New purchase 1918 Buffalo opinions wanted

[copper toning]

Picked this up a few weeks ago.

 

I am not very good at grading these.

 

I have my guess, however I would like to hear others comments on the grade.

 

Jim

 

[bsshog40]

Nice looking Buffalo. I'm guessing MS66.

[KeyMan64]

Buffalo Nickels are one of the toughest coins to grade, for me anyway. That being said, If it is Mint State then I would guess 65 maybe. Looks nice.

[jom]

Looks gem but in-hand is needed as in most cases.

 

Both side's die seemed to have been on their last legs but it's a good strike nonetheless.

 

jom

[Walkerfan]

If there's no rub, I'd say 65 or 66. I can't tell from the images. Overall, I really like the coin.

[copper toning]

If there's no rub, I'd say 65 or 66. I can't tell from the images. Overall, I really like the coin.

 

no rub, the high are also fairly well struck imo

[copper toning]

Looks gem but in-hand is needed as in most cases.

 

Both side's die seemed to have been on their last legs but it's a good strike nonetheless.

 

jom

 

I agree as to the state of the dies, I believe what we are seeing is die erosion.

 

I personally think that the die erosion adds a little character since the strike is still nice.

 

Although I am not sure a hardcore buff collector would like the erosion

[jom]

Looks gem but in-hand is needed as in most cases.

 

Both side's die seemed to have been on their last legs but it's a good strike nonetheless.

 

jom

 

I agree as to the state of the dies, I believe what we are seeing is die erosion.

 

I personally think that the die erosion adds a little character since the strike is still nice.

 

Although I am not sure a hardcore buff collector would like the erosion

 

Yes, I agree..die erosion.

 

On whether "hard core" collectors would like it. I can't say. When I collected the series I was unusual in that I'd always prefer pretty toning over, say, a nicely struck piece (all else being equal). That's just me as I'm a toning fiend. Most Buff collectors love the strike detail though....

 

jom

[MarkFeld]

My guess is 64 or quite possibly, lower. That is based on what looks to be light discoloration/disturbances on the Indian's cheek, upper forehead and upper right braid area.

[Raisethis2]

Theres a rim hit on the reverse and a few noticable scratches on the cheek and hair.

 

 

My guess MS 64.

[Coinbuf]

I'm guessing that the smattering of nicks and the die condition kep the grade at 64, but would not be that surprised if it was a 65.

[michael]

au-64

[yonico]

i'm thinking MS64 maybe 65

i really like the looks of it!

[wdrob]

Beautiful example that I would have said MS65 ... MS64 is my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

[copper toning]

I believe the coin to be a 64

 

Despite the dies the strike is nice and the luster is there.

 

Here is a link to a different pic with different lighting. Shows the surfaces better, but not the luster and color.

 

Also a huge pic link of the original pic

 

Caution huge pics

 

http://robecsimages.com/photos/CT/1918Buffobv_04.jpg

 

http://robecsimages.com/photos/CT/1918BuffobvLg_10.jpg

 

[MarkFeld]

Looking at the two links:

 

The first one makes me think the coin is probably a 64.

 

The second one makes me think the coin could grade anywhere from 58 to 63, to cleaned.

[Buffalo Head]

Looks like it's been cleaned. If that's the case it's sad because I see it as a 64.

[jom]

That's a better photo...the coin has been wiped with all of the hairlines. Not sure what to grade it now. <= 63 I'd imagine. It doesn't look like it has wear though...it's easier for me to see the reverse as far as that goes.

 

jom

[Elbesaar]

 

I'm not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling about this coin.

Its got to be the Die Erosion that makes me feel the coin

will be difficult to grade. If you say its MS - ok - but I would

think its not higher than a 64.

 

As Keyman64 mentioned - I can't grade Buffalos either,

at least accurately !

[Coinbuf]

O thats a shame, that second pic seems to show significant hairlines from a cleaning allright. Baised on that pic it would seem to be an UNC details coin.

[BillJones]

I like the coin, but given the state of the dies, I can't see it getting much beyond MS-64. I actually like that kind of toning, but it's not what the high grade buyers like to see.

[copper toning]

The second photo was intentionally left the void of some of the color and luster to better show the details of the surfaces I believe what some are seeing as hairlines from being wiped or cleaned are actually die polish which appear to be raised

 

I agree with bill the die erosion and color will probably limit to a 64

[MarkFeld]

The second photo was intentionally left the void of some of the color and luster to better show the details of the surfaces I believe what some are seeing as hairlines from being wiped or cleaned are actually die polish which appear to be raised

 

I agree with bill the die erosion and color will probably limit to a 64

 

I assure you, what appear to be lines on the cheek are not die polish lines.