Opinion

[newprepper]

I was looking at stuff on ebay with my daughter, I let her pick one for me, she likes the indian heads, seller said AU, I get the coin, and it looks like a video game token. its so shiny it looks like a proof, has some toning, but the edge is brown like a regular brown cent. probably cleaned. what do you experts have to say?

[Walkerfan]

It's Counterfeit---date is askew for one thing (it's not centered). Surfaces looks and sound very STRANGE. It doesn't have the right 'color', either.

[newprepper]

my fault, I need glasses

[JIM F.]

It's Counterfeit---date is askew for one thing (it's not centered). Surfaces looks and sound very STRANGE. It doesn't have the right 'color', either.

 

Agreed. Not a very good one either.

 

 

 

[newprepper]

I tried different lighting to get better appearance, I suck at photos, sorry

[blu62vette]

Fake or polished, return.

[Walkerfan]

my fault, I need glasses

 

Oh, Ok.... that explains it. Well, it has surface issues, at the very least.

[newprepper]

I'm serious, when I take these pics, I cant tell how its oriented, thanks all

[e1cnr]

looks like it has been copper plated

 

makes an AU or lower MS brown look RED GEM

if you do not know what they are supposed to look like

 

 

 

[Coindude]

It's either a counterfeit or highly polished, worth $1 at most. If you didn't pay too much more than that, and your daughter likes it, keep it and maker her happy.

[wheat'swheats]

I would send that one back as fast as I could and file a complaint at the first sigh of a problem.

wheat

[physics-fan3.14]

Its fake. Return it.

[newprepper]

I have contacted the seller, awaiting reply

[BillJones]

I guess I'm missing something because I don't see the counterfeit part, but it has definitely been harshly cleaned and polished. The toning you see is not unusual on a piece that has been cleaned like this. It is a normal reaction for bronze that has had it protective patina removed and exposed to the air.

 

As it is the coin has very little value. I'd say less than a dollar if it is genuine. If you can return it, I'd do so.

 

Here is a Proof Indian cent from the same general era. You can use this to compare the placement of the design devices for counterfeit detection.

 

 

[messydesk]

I guess I'm missing something because I don't see the counterfeit part, but it has definitely been harshly cleaned and polished.

It doesn't look fake to me, either. Everything's in the right place, but it's harshly polished.

[newprepper]

I didn't see the luster when I got it, made me wonder, thanks again, I think the counterfeit part comes from my original pic it was rotated to about 2 o'clock

[TomB]

It looks real to me. It also looks highly polished. This is not the type of coin you would want to spend any real money on to have in your collection.

[newprepper]

The seller agreed to take it back, thanks again to everybody

[TWCableMan-migration]

Im glad to hear that the seller is taking it back, some sellers on Ebay care nothing about this great hobby we are a part of and care only about making money.

[newprepper]

He had no problem, offered to pay return shipping. I said I would pay that, I would have been happy with just refunding purchase price, Shipping is minimal to have it in hand

[johnny9434]

that almost looks off center a little bit to me as well. id send it back with all the tell tale signs jmo

[WoodenJefferson]

Looks like one of them novelty coasters.

[newprepper]

It looked like a new token at CECheese, polished, not lustrous like my ms lincolns. except fot the edge, it was tarnished. how lazy to go through the motions and not do the edge