Grade my 1897 S Morgan please

[Raisethis2]

Just bought this raw over the weekend. Trying to teach myself to take decent photos too. Obverse has some apparent flat strike characteristics but overall no big hits on the cheek. There are a few contact marks in the left field. Reverse has a little contact mark at the arrow tips and above " In God We Trust".

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

 

[Raisethis2]

While were at it, here's a 1879 S Dollar to review as well.

 

Again, all input is valued.

 

 

[Bruceswar]

This coin looks pretty nice. I will say MS 63+ or could be MS 64

[rrantique]

I'll say 63 and 64 on the 79 (thumbs u

 

Same coins cropped and lightened.

 

[mtnstyne]

I will say 64 on both, nice pickups.

[jgrinz]

Those are nice

MS62

MS64PL rev 79

[bsshog40]

I'm going with 64 & 63.

[Walkerfan]

Based solely on the images MS 63 & 64

[SPeck95512]

I'm gonna' be hard on the first one (97-S) and call it a 55-58. Once you leave the devices there's a little border and then a different look for the fields that I view as slightly circulated. Also the rim is screaming at me that something is amiss.

 

The second coin (79-S) I'd give a 63+ or 64.

[Walkerfan]

I'm gonna' be hard on the first one (97-S) and call it a 55-58. Once you leave the devices there's a little border and then a different look for the fields that I view as slightly circulated. Also the rim is screaming at me that something is amiss.

 

The second coin (79-S) I'd give a 63+ or 64.

 

That was actually my first inclination for coin # 1, as the hair around the ear seemed worn or incomplete, beyond the point of being explained away by a soft strike.

[Raisethis2]

Good eye SPeck95512. The rim definitely does appear to have a "different strike" than the other Morgans I have here at my desk. Where the beaded edge extends even beyond the last high relief ridge on the others, on this coins obverse the strike seems visibly less deep.The rim also is a bit tapered.

 

I'm guessing this is all just strike related but a great catch and exactly the kind of insight I need to learn.

 

Thanks

[$ilverHawk]

Your pics show fairly clear fields on both Obverse and Reverse for both coins. 1897-S is known for an above average strike. Pics show average strike--MS63.

 

1879-S is typically sharp and bold. Your pics show an average strike--MS63.

 

I like both coins, and the pics may not give a clear representation of the strike or clarity of the fields.

 

Carl

[Kamillion]

1897 ms62

1879 ms64

[noow]

63 and 64PL

[MarkFeld]

They both look like MS64's to me - I think a number of you folks are being too tough on the 1897-S.

[Raisethis2]

Bought them both at auction last weekend. I thought they were MS 64 "ish" so I pulled the trigger. If they get sent to NGC and come back MS 64, I'll be doing the happy dance.

 

Thanks again for your input.

 

[coinman_23885]

If the pictures are representative of the coins, I say 64 on both.

[jgrinz]

They both look like MS64's to me - I think a number of you folks are being too tough on the 1897-S.

 

"S" mints in '97 are supposed to have very 'decent' strikes - the hairline just does not do it for me

 

With the aforementioned issues by the OP, I cannot get by what is

happening on the chin, if thats a gouge or a die chip. It will definitely affect its grade - I am going with a gouge and thus my downgrade.

 

After comparing these coins to mine I will stick by my grades :-)

 

Still nice nevrtheless