Jefferson Nickel 1945-D GTG

[lehigh96]

Guess the grade of this NGC Generation 3 1945-D Jefferson Nickel in the attached Poll

 

 

Please give you reasons for your grade if you want. Thanks

[coinman_23885]

It looks like coins that I have seen in NGC MS67 holders. I voted no on the steps; I can only see four full steps.

[bsshog40]

I see MS66 and looks pretty close to 5FS so that was my choice.

[Kurtdog]

I'm seeing only four lines, too, and a little die fatigue. MS66. It's a very attractive coin.

[bsshog40]

I also chose my answer as to FS steps are counting the top step, then there are suppose to be 5 steps below that.

[lehigh96]

The rule of Jefferson Nickels:

 

4 lines = 5 full steps

5 lines = 6 full steps

[mtnstyne]

This will be a good lesson in determining FS designations.

 

I chose MS66 5FS

[bsshog40]

The rule of Jefferson Nickels:

 

4 lines = 5 full steps

5 lines = 6 full steps

I didn't quite say it right but that is what I meant. The top step is considered 1 step, then there are 5 lines below that indicating the rest of the steps to designate the 5 or 6 Full Steps. I think I said it right Paul.

[Kurtdog]

OK, then you talked me into it, I'm seeing 5FS. Now, how do I change my vote to reflect that?

[Old Pueblo]

I voted 66 FS, nice Jefferson

 

My eyes ain't what they used to be

 

 

OP

[e1cnr]

I vote 66 5FS

 

the nick on cheek, clatter on jaw, and 2-3 light carbon spots limit it to 66 imho

 

 

although if luster/colors pop, would not be totally surprised in 67 and also not totally surprised w/o 5FS as a little weakness below pillar 2, not sure when they started FS designations, but guessing they had it by GEN 3, if not then no FS and probably 67.

[Schatzy]

My vote was MS66 5FS but they 67 wouldn't surprise me.

[RockMyAmadeus]

I'm at 66 5FS. There's a small hit below Monticello that bothers me.

[coinman_23885]

The rule of Jefferson Nickels:

 

4 lines = 5 full steps

5 lines = 6 full steps

 

Thanks for clarifying. This is probably one of the few times that I am ecstatic to be wrong. I have a few San Francisco mint silver war nickels (42-S and 45-S) in old NGC fatties (back before 5 step coins received a FS designation) that should upgrade on designation review (i.e. receive a 5FS designation). While I thought that some other coins would upgrade, I had attributed these as having 4 steps. You made my day.

 

With regards to your coin, I'll change my vote from MS67 to MS67 5FS. I like your coin.

 

[lehigh96]

Thread has been dormant for more than 24 hours. NGC did not recognize 5FS until 2/16/2004. Until then, NGC used the FS designation which required the coin to have 6 full steps to qualify. This coin resides in a generation 3 NGC holder circa 1987-88. Therefore, the coin could not have been graded with a 5FS designation despite the fact that is does have 5 full steps. Okay, so who was the joker who guessed MS65?

 

 

For the record, I think this coin belongs in an MS66 5FS holder and it would not seem out of place in an NGC MS67 5FS holder. I paid $12 for this coin in February of 2008.

[James_OldeTowne]

I guessed MS-66, but am thoroughly ignorant of all the "steps" designations.

[physics-fan3.14]

Paul, I saw a couple of War Nickels that would have knocked your socks off at David Lawrence's table. Both were MS-67, and had toning that was out of this world. Of course, they wanted $1500 for the nicer of the two.

[coinman_23885]

I never would have guessed that it only slabbed as a MS65.