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Mike Meenderink

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  1. These coins are zinc planchets plated in copper. The process of copper plating these coins is corrosive and sometimes results in a small amount of zinc being dissolved into the plating bath as the copper is being applied. Some zinc is then combined with the copper and plated onto the coin. This will give the coin a silvery goldish tone. Some coins may have a thin cladding layer due to improper manufacturing. Other coins may have been experimented on with corrosive acids that removed or damaged the copper clad layer. You must have the coin professionally examined to determine its authenticity, type of error and value.
  2. You sound incapacitated as well just for your information. If your coin was actually submitted, you would already see the grade on the current submissions page. So please just stop.
  3. Fortunately, I can photo grade this coin for you. Let me begin by saying this is a photo grade based on APPARENT surface conditions and VISIBLE details. This is NOT a real grade. Grading can only be done properly and accurately with the coin IN HAND. I however can approximate the grade for you. Your coin has a fair luster and seemingly original surfaces. I do not see obvious signs of cleaning or any damage that may preclude a straight grade. The details of the design are well struck and have even minimal overall circulation wear. There are key areas of the coin which determine its grade which do show signs of circulation wear. These areas are. REV: The tail area and rear flank (hip), the head horn which both areas show signs of circulation wear. OBV: The center of head on hair which shows signs of circulation wear, the lower braided hair which also shows signs of circulation wear. I would photo grade your coin at AU 50. A higher grade may be obtained in hand but from what I see its low AU and has a value of $23.00- $28.00 graded. This is a slightly above average condition Buffalo Nickel but a very, very common coin of which many were struck. As a raw uncertified or ungraded coin its worth about $6.00-$10.00 to the right buyer. Cheers
  4. "If you would read between the lines instead of just seeing normal water then maybe you can match the eyes, the bill and the head of a literal duck that is looking at you. How on earth are you that blind? You need new glasses or something old man? My God "😂😂 Wait, wait this one is staring at me just like on your baby duck quarter!
  5. Did you get your nails dealt with? That 20 plus another 15 will handle it. Spend it on that.
  6. Dreams lay shattered strewn on the cold hard truth with no glue in sight. END SCENE, SCREEN FADES TO BLACK.
  7. @RWBIts not my coin so...whatever. You should contact NGC with any questions you may have. I however know that is burlap.. My final words will be " its burlap".
  8. The sample inside the holder is burlap. Please tell me you know the difference. The person who wrote that description is either wrong or the sample is fake. Its burlap. Not canvas. Look at the weave. Look at the color. Burlap looks very different from duck canvas.
  9. You really don't trust NGC do you? I'm perplexed as to why a coin certified by NGC is considered authentic by you, but a fragment of burlap bag is out of the question and could not be possibly real or related to the coin. Your research while commendable is not the final say on the history of the mint, not by a longshot. You could not possibly know what you don't know. You were not there.
  10. I'm not arguing that there are no cotton canvas bags as we all know they are the norm,,, but the burlap versions did exist. The fragment in the holder is Burlap we can all agree on that right? So these coins came in a burlap bag from the mint. Maybe not many came in burlap bags and that is why the coins have the burlap sample on the holder to show its pretty cool.
  11. @RWBThe material in the holder is burlap. So that alone proves you wrong no matter what your papers say. I believe my eyes not you.BURLAP
  12. @RWBGee history says different (and the fact these bags actually exist) but you were there so...
  13. Incorrect it is Burlap. Burlap was used prior to 1920. Early U.S. Mint Burlap Bags hold a fascinating historical significance. These sturdy bags were used by the U.S. Mint for various purposes, including transporting and storing coins. Let’s delve into their story: Purpose and Usage: Coin Storage: Burlap bags were employed to safely store newly minted coins. These bags were particularly common during the early 20th century. Bulk Transportation: When coins were produced in large quantities, they needed a reliable means of transportation. Burlap bags served this purpose effectively. Construction and Material: Burlap: The bags were made from burlap, a coarse, woven fabric derived from jute or hemp fibers. Durable and Breathable: Burlap is known for its durability and breathability, making it suitable for coin storage. Design and Features: Sealed Bags: The U.S. Mint would seal coins in these burlap bags to ensure their integrity. Markings: Some bags featured printed markings, indicating the denomination, mint location, and other relevant details. Red Seals: Many early U.S. Mint burlap bags had red seals, which became iconic. Historical Significance: Minting Process: After coins were minted, they were counted, sorted, and placed into these bags. Distribution: The bags facilitated the distribution of coins to banks, businesses, and other entities. Collectible: Today, these vintage burlap bags are collectible items, cherished by numismatists and history enthusiasts.
  14. The Morgan dollars are encapsulated with fragments of original US Mint burlap bags this coin hoard was found in. The BU adjective grade implys MS 63 -64 an average grade for Morgans. This series of holders is meant to reinforce the history of the distribution of mint products from the early days of the mint. Connecting and acknowledging the bag handling as a standard practice from the older days shows why many Morgan Dollars have excessive marks even on UNC coins.
  15. I agree it is a very nice looking coin for XF. Besides the circ wear the coin is relatively un marked.
  16. World Coins Not Certified by NGC Posted on 9/16/2016 NGC was the first independent third-party grading service to certify a broad range of world coins. Today, NGC certifies coins from virtually every country and period of time. There is a very small number of coinage types that are not eligible for certification by NGC. This list is meant as a basic guide and NGC may determine the eligibility of certain coin types on a case-by-case basis. When a coin or medal is determined to be an "Ineligible Type," the grading fee (less a processing fee) is returned. For more information on eligible world coins, contact NGC Customer Service. Countries and Types Not Certified by NGC China - Cast Coinage [Limited issues eligible for certification in Shanghai] France - Merovingian Dynasty India - Kushan Empire, Gupta Empire, Kidarite/Hunnic Dynasties Indonesia- Shailendra Dynasty Japan - Cast Issues and "Bean Money" Japan - Oban, Koban and Bu Japan - Manchukuo Fiber Coinage Myanmar - Pyu City-States and Mon Kingdom Poland & Czech Republic - WWII Ghetto Coinage Sweden - Plate Money Thailand - Bullet Money Note: NGC Ancients accepts most coins struck in the Western World from the origins of coinage through c. AD 500, as well as most coins of the Byzantine Empire (AD 491-1453). See coins eligible for NGC Ancients > See tokens and medals eligible for NGC certification >
  17. NGC'S CERTIFICATION SERVICES FOR US AND WORLD TOKENS AND MEDALS Posted on 1/2/2012 NGC certifies the widest range of Exonumia and Americana. Visit the NGC Tokens and Medals Census This list of materials that we officially authenticate, attribute and grade is periodically updated as we continue to expand the service. We offer certified grading for most of these materials using our regular and Oversize holders; however, a color photo certificate may be issued if your item is too large or too fragile to be encapsulated. Tokens and medals may be submitted under any grading tier based on value and desired turnaround time. Also select the Tokens and Medals service, which does not have an additional fee. Variety attribution, where applicable, is included. US Tokens and Medals A.B. Sage Series Medals Admiral Dewey Medals ANA Convention Medals Bimetallic Trade Tokens of the US, as listed in Schenkman Bolen Medals, as listed in Neil Musante Bryan Money, as listed in Schornstein Calendar Medals California Fractional Gold Pieces, Periods One and Two, along with several Period Three pieces, as listed in Breen-Gillio. For more information, click here. Charbneau Dollars, as listed in Shevlin Civil War Tokens Civil War Store Card and Patriotic Tokens, as listed in Fuld Civil War Sutler Tokens, as listed in Schenkman Monitor & Merrimac Tokens and Medals, as listed in Schenkman Bashlow restrikes of CSA 1c and 50c Counterstamps, as listed in Brunk Dog Tags, as listed in Maier and Stahl Early American, Hard Times, Merchant and Trade Tokens as listed in Rulau Elongated Tokens, as listed in Martin and Dow Franklin Medals, as listed in Greenslet Franklin Mint Official Inaugural Medals Hard Rubber Tokens, as listed in Schenkman Hawaiian Tokens and Medals, as listed in Medcalf & Russell Inaugural Medals, as listed in Levine Indian Nations Coinage Shawnee Sovereign Nation Poarch Creek Sovereign Nation Joseph H. Merriam Medals, as listed in Schenkman Lesher Dollars Libertas American & Paris Restrikes Lincoln Medals, as listed in King Louisiana Purchase Expo, as listed in Hendershott Masonic Chapter Pennies Medallic Art Company Medals Native American Peace Medals, as listed in Jamieson Pan-American Expo, as listed in Lavin Political Tokens and Medals Campaign tokens and medals, as listed in DeWitt / Sullivan Robbins Space Medals, as listed in Weinberger So-Called Dollars, as listed in Hibler & Kappen (excluding HK-908 & HK-909) So-Called Half Dollars, including but not limited to C. Smith issues and Heraldic Art Medals State and City Centennial/Bicentennial/Sesquicentennial Medals Stone Mountain Counterstamps T. Elder Issue, as listed in Delorey US Mint Medals American Arts Commemorative Series and Wildlife Refuge US Mint Medals listed in Julian & Keusch US Mint Medals listed in Swoger and Dean Washintonia, as listed in Baker World’s Fair and Expositions World’s Columbian Exposition Tokens and Medals, as listed in Eglit 1904 St. Louis World’s Fair Tokens and Medals, as listed in Hendershott World Tokens and Medals Admiral Vernon Medals, as listed in Adams Austria, as listed in Peltzer British Tokens and Medals 18th-century tokens, as listed in Dalton & Hamer, Bell and Atkins 19th-century tokens, as listed in Bell, Davis and Withers British medals, as listed in Medallic Illustration (Hawkins), British Historical Medals (Brown) and Eimer Canadian Tokens as listed in Breton & Charlton Canadian Fractional Gold Tokens, as listed in Greene & Locke Chinese Medals, see important note below Communion Tokens, as listed in Burzinski Edward VIII Medals, as listed in Portraits of a Prince by Giordano Europe, as listed in Eisler France, as listed in Feuardent; Forrer; Gadoury 1991; Maier; and Page-Divo Germany Balloon, Zepplin & Aircraft Medals, as listed in Kaiser Karl Goetz Medals, as listed in Kienast* Other Medals and Tokens, as listed in Brettauer; Brockmann; Erlanger; Gaedechens; Goppel, Dr. Plum and Holler (GPH); Hauser; Merseburger; Montenuovo; Peltzer; Wurzbach-Tannenberg; Zeitz; and Zetzmann Hungary, as listed in Huszar India Medals, as listed in Puddester Israel State Medals Israel, as listed in Haffner Latin American Tokens, as listed in Rulau Latin American Proclamation Medals, as listed in Medina and Fonrobert Mexican Medals, as listed in Grove Mexican Tokens, as listed in Grove Napoleonic Medals, as listed in Bramsen Netherlands, as listed in Van Loon Philippine Tokens and Medals, as listed in Honeycutt and Basso* Reformation, as listed in Whiting and Goppel, Dr. Plum and Holler (GPH) Russian Medals, as listed in Diakov South African Medals, as listed in Hern South African Tokens, as listed in Hern Swiss Shooting Medals, as listed in the Martin & Richter (1612–1939) or Kappeli Tokens, listed in Lecompte* Vatican Medals, as listed in Rinaldi World Transportation Tokens, as listed in Smith & Smith *Not all types are eligible. Important Note: Chinese Medals Certified by NGC NGC will only grade and encapsulate modern Chinese medals that have been made at one of the four official Mints of China (Nanjing, Shanghai, Shenyang, and Shenzhen Guobao). While NGC maintains a large record of official Chinese medals, we cannot guarantee that we can attribute all medals sent to us. In order for NGC to attribute and grade any official Chinese Medal (or Medallion), we request that any medal submitted to us have the appropriate verification documentation (or certificate of authenticity issued by the People’s Bank of China [China Mint Company]). Verification documentation should include the date of the medal (or year struck/issued), diameter and metal content, mint it was struck at, and the mintage. Failure to include this information could result in the medal being returned un-graded with a note signifying the coin to be Non Eligible. Three examples of Chinese medals that are eligible for NGC certification (all of which where struck at the Shanghai Mint, China) are: 1984 Hong Kong, China Expo – Panda Silver 1 Ounce, Proof, 1,000 Minted 1989 Folk Gods Series: Maitreya Buddha Gold ¼ Ounce, Proof, 5,000 Minted 1989 Zhao Gongming Silver 3.3 Ounces, Proof, 2,430 Minted Check this listing periodically as new material types are added. NGC reserves the right to attribute based on the most commonly used or available reference when an item is listed in more than one subject reference. You can request that a particular reference be used; however, it will be attributed to the reference normally used and that serves as the basis of the listing in the Census Report at the discretion of NGC. We will make an effort to certify most US, European and Latin American tokens and medals not yet included in this list. However, if you have a token or medal that is not listed here, contact us to find out if your medal is eligible for NGC certification before you submit i