It was great to talk with you there Charmy, and really good report as always!
In answer to the note "I'd be interested to know your opinion or any other large cent collectors opinion on the quality of these fakes? Are they exceptionally deceptive or not, etc.. That is if there is enough info to base an opinion on from the available photos and TPG images, if available. I haven't looked myself yet but hope to have some time this weekend to study them", these are extremely deceptive! The 1798 "S-158" was originally thought to be a possible new Sheldon variety until a couple more with the same defects and diagnostics found. And the 1797 S-139 was considered one of the top 15 of the variety until also proven fake. Bad coins in genuine holders as genuine, certs have been deactivated.
Counterfeits seem to be everywhere, including the Show Guide they had for us...
Best, Jack.