Hinkle

Thank you everyone, apologies not getting back to this right away. Been very busy for the last couple of months. Your expertise on this coin was much appreciated. 

Hello everyone, I'm not sure if this would qualify as a DDO or MD. Really strong on the "B" in liberty. Took shots from the scope. Coin has ruff circulation. Also a spiked head. Im trying  hard to look for the varietys out there but couldn't pass this up without asking.  There's really nothing going on in the date or anywhere else that I can see. I see they have listing for  the Philadelphia and Denver but not San Francisco. Thanks 

On 5/11/2023 at 3:11 PM, Sandon said:

   It still appears to be a die chip, which results from a piece of metal missing from the die other than from an advanced die break that formed a similar but usually larger lump called a "cud". When a coin is struck metal fills the depression left by the chip, causing a lump. A coin can have one die chip or any number of them, and they come in a variety of shapes and sizes. (Did you think that the lump is the piece of die steel that came off the die?)  A coin struck from a clashed die would tend to show the outline of the shallowest features of the reverse die, not just those as deep as this lump.

  U.S. coins from the late 1940s to about the mid-1960s seem to have been made from dies that frequently chipped. The so-called "BIE" Lincoln cents from the 1950s and the clogged numerals on 1960 small date cents that led to the adoption of the larger date style are examples. Some months back I posted the following topic about the "BIE" and related cents:

 

Thank you

On 5/11/2023 at 2:38 PM, Hinkle said:

Here's a close up pic. Didn't know this was also called a die chip. I need to study more. Love information like this it keeps me busy. And yes it's rare nowadays to receive silver in change. I was totally shocked. Probably be another few years to see that again. 

On 5/11/2023 at 2:19 PM, Sandon said:

   Based on your photo, the anomaly looks like a lump, which would be a die chip, not a reverse image of a corresponding portion of the reverse die, which would indicate a clash mark.  Perhaps a close-up image of the affected area would show something else.  

   It's certainly unusual to receive a silver coin in change in recent years.

Here's a close up pic. Didn't know this was also called a die chip. I need to study more. Love information like this it keeps me busy. And yes it's rare nowadays to receive silver in change. I was totally shocked. Probably be another few years to see that again. 

On 5/11/2023 at 1:57 PM, EagleRJO said:

Why do you think that's a clash, and not simply a die chip?

Wouldn't a die chip be a little clump of metal pieces. This is bubbled like a shape of a die clash. Hmmm I might be wrong. Is there other types of die chips than what I'm saying here. I'm confused 

I call this the dollar general quarter, got it back in change after a purchase. I'm not finding die clash in the research on a 64. It's happing at 3 o'clock behind washington head. Looked at a overlay,  it seems to be the wing of the eagle on reverse. Showing this to get others opinion. Thanks 

Thank you, thought it would be MD, back to hunting. 

I'm not good looking for minor DDs, but while looking through the glass I noticed the five stars were odd. I took close up pic with phone and close up with scope. I was really looking this coin over a few times before I shared, to get your thoughts. I can't find anything else but the star's looking like that. Just don't know if this is DD or MD. 

With the modern coins they we're single pressed. So when I see this kind of stuff on these newer coins really make me wonder if it's true DD or not. But most likely MD. Before throwing it back in circulation thought I would ask. Thanks 

It would be hard to believe they would put the real deal in a grab bag. The stamps are real ,that's a good thing. The only item that pays for the 5 dollar grab bag so far, is Barry bonds dad Bobby bonds gaints baseball card. It's around 6 dollars. Barry bonds is the famous one than his father. Thanks guys for the help very much appreciated. 

Apologies, the weight is supposed to be 24.05 . Need to get some sleep. My bad.

I picked this up at a garage sale, They had five dollar grab bags. The guy said some has coins, stamps and trading cards. So I grabbed one and seen this. It doesn't stick to a magnet so I weighed it and said fake when it showed the weight. That would be under weight alot wouldn't it. Thought I would share, and get any thoughts on this. Thanks 

BTW, the bag was full of mostly stamps and other goodies. 

Is there any suggestion I should know when and hopefully I go to a coin show this summer. I'm asking this because there a couple coins I would like to pick up ,if I can get them in my budget. Pretty much I'll be showing up with just a red book. I'm not going by the pricing just going by photos varietys etc...

On 5/4/2023 at 12:53 PM, Sandon said:

   As @Coinbuf indicated, some dealer or promoter likely paid PCGS for this "special" label. The PCGS certification verification function (on pcgs.com) refers to the holder as "Standard". 

   The "Redbook" and other printed price guides just don't have room to list coins in all eleven (or more) mint state grades now in use, not to mention all of the now numerous circulated grades. (The Redbook isn't useful as an up-to-date price guide anyway.) They just choose a few representative grades.  The online price guides (NGC, PCGS, Coin World and others) tend to list more grades. The PCGS certificate verification for this coin indicates that there are 1,845 1955 "Bugs Bunny" variety half dollars graded in MS 64 and 350 in all higher grades, so MS 64 is likely what Q. David Bowers would call the "optimal collecting grade" (highest grade at a reasonable price) for this variety. You can see the populations in all grades on the PCGS population report, which is also accessible from the PCGS home page.

  

Thank you Sandon, really good info. 

Thought this might help 

On 5/4/2023 at 12:35 PM, Coinbuf said:

I am not familiar with that label, most likely it was done as a special promotion for a television seller or some type of promotion.    I do not understand your question on the grade, MS64 is the grade given the coin by the PCGS grading staff, why does this seem unusual to you?   The 70 point Sheldon scale, which includes all the MS grades from MS70 to MS60, has been in use by all the grading services for decades.

Thanks Coinbuf, I was looking up MS64 for the pricing in the red book and other books I have. The books are only showing MS63 ,MS65, and proof65. I know not to go by theses pricing, but trying to get a ballpark figure on this.

Hello again, picked this up for a really good deal. My question is what does PREMIER mean. And my second question there's no MS64 in the red book or other books I have. Would that mean MS64 is a common grade as this die clash error is common on these halves. Just asking, thanks 

Hey there everyone, came across this and Lincoln is missing. I did a close up but, the closer I take a pic, the more distorted it gets. I thought this would be interesting to share. My question,  is this over polishing die or grease filled die. Thanks 

On 4/6/2023 at 8:48 AM, Just Bob said:

Don't forget:  The fact that these are being offered for a lot of money doesn't mean they are actually selling for this amount. Anyone can slap a high price tag on their garbage, but only an ignorant person would buy it. I could put a big scratch a Lincoln cent, give it a cutesie name like "scarface" or "injured Abe" and list it for $100, but that doesn't make it worth more than a penny. The same goes with all of these very minor cuds, cracks, and chips. If you like them, by all means collect them. I certainly hold on to any unusual die state example or other interesting thing I may find, but I don't expect them to ever be anything more than a novelty.

Thanks Bob, I don't expect it to be worth wild on any coins out there. I keep a few just to have on hand for learning purposes. And your right just a bunch of garbage. 

On 4/6/2023 at 9:04 AM, Coinbuf said:

Who is buying these at $60 each?   How do you know that anyone is actually buying these?   Just because someone on IG or etsy/ebay is listing it at these prices doesn't mean that anyone is buying at these prices.   Are those listing at these prices making a two way market, have you contacted one of the sellers and asked what he is paying for the coins you have with die chips?   My guess is that the sellers of these will not be interested in buying, or only at a tiny fraction of what they list them for.

I have no doubt that there are a few people buying this stuff, there is always the greater fool, especially with the proliferation of all the get rich quick videos.   I remember when the "BIE" cents from the 50's were the new hotness and people were just as gullible and lapping up those cents as important.   It did not take long before it was realized that they were not only not special but that there were tons of them available.

Just don't be the greater fool, you know from your roll searching just how easy it is to find coins with die chips.   The internet is a great tool, but it is also a tool for misleading people in very large numbers.

As to the coin you posted in this thread, the closeup is out of focus, it might be a tiny die chip but I cannot say for sure from that pic.

Thanks  Coinbuf,  yeah looking  on ebay. Just unbelievable how these are priced. Your right, by roll searching I find more and more of die chips on alot of coins. Pretty common if you ask me. Just outrageous what people  will pay for a die chip on coins. I think I'll  save my money on something cooler. 

Hi everyone, how is it that die chips on these new quarters are going between 40, 60 dollars a pop. I get alot of pop-ups about this stuff. I have die chips on silver coins almost similar to these new coins, and only worth at the most 10 dollars. There given these errors/die chips names also. I'm being told to just call it what the error or variety is. Much respect for everyone on here staying professional on what they are really called. I'm understanding naming a error is just over doing it to get a bigger hype, then really learning the actual error/variety. 

Then I get a pop-up on the 1969-Ds penny with no FG knowing it's overpolishing die, going for around 100 dollars. When I think back I threw a hand full of those back into circulation, just because I was being told there not a big deal to collector's. Interesting. 

I'm still hunting, but taking a little more time searching through coins with the new stuff popping up out there. Like the extra V in VDB initial on the 2023 penny. To me it's still alot of fun. Like I've said before, I'm into collecting and keeping what I find, not to much into making money on this stuff. But if I find something special then I might sell or whatever might happen. 

Here's a 2021-D penny,  I'm only showing this because now with all this crazy stuff popping up out there, it's got me looking closer at these coins. I would say this is a die chip on the V, I could be wrong tho. Thanks 

On 4/4/2023 at 1:50 PM, Greenstang said:

Looks like environmental damage, possibly a buried coin.  
Do you have the weight?

The weight is 2.24

On 4/4/2023 at 1:39 PM, Just Bob said:

The overall look of the coin makes me think it is stained, and not missing the outer clad layers.

Thank you Bob, I figured something was wrong with it.

I'm thinking this is a true missing clad error on both sides of coin. But could this be environmental damage. This one has me in a loop, can't tell if that's PMD or not. Thanks for any advice with this coin.

On 4/3/2023 at 6:32 AM, J P M said:

If Hinkle were to slide another IKE into the clip then take a picture. We may be able to see if there is a big variation in the gap if it has been cut and filed . Other than that I would say send it to ANACS. 

I'll do that soon as I get the coin back from my sister. It's hers, I have no clue how she found it. But really cool to see something like that on any coin. I'll  let her know you guys suggest to send it in to be looked at. Thank you to everyone.