TON Collection

Any thoughts?

NGC has the coins my friends. I really appreciate everyone’s outlook and opinions it’s been a great help

Would like some opinions on what happened here and it doesn’t sound like copper when you do the drop tests.!

Well after the Eisenhower dollar being under weight I decided to check some other coins out of the same collection the Eisenhower dollar came in and this happened? Is this just a thin planchet?

1 hour ago, Mohawk said:

Exactly right, Travis.  TON....what Ben found would be pretty significant, but it would be very helpful to know exactly what he did to arrive at a 90% silver composition.  That would be quite a significant off-metal error but, and I may be wrong on this, I am unsure of how a 90% planchet would be made in 1975 and 1976 when these were struck.  So, with the knowledge I have at present, I cannot figure out how a 90% Silver Ike would be made and how it is as lightweight as it is because silver coins are heavier than copper nickel clad coins of the same size.  Maybe someone on here with an in depth knowledge of the US Mint and its products and production methods knows some things that I do not about what the US Mint was doing at this time in history that would make a 90% silver strike possible.  Knowing the exact test would definitely be helpful here because this is a weird one, no doubt about it.

What about a at home density test?

18 minutes ago, Travis Hale said:

I would have to agree. Even looking at the modern fake wood encased ones, it looks even better. It’s hard to tell unless nowadays you definitely have provenance. Not to discourage, I’ve just had to be very careful with these kind for a while now....

 

Happy Hunting 

So what suggestions would you give? And your not discouraging this is what makes are hobby exciting 

5 minutes ago, TON Collection said:

OK guys Here is what we got. Ben  down at Sarasota rare numismatics  tested it handled it weighed it  and came back 90% silver he is confused as I am but did suggest that could be a presentation piece

OK guys Here is what we got. Ben  down at Sarasota rare numismatics  tested it handled it weighed it  and came back 90% silver he is confused as I am but did suggest that could be a presentation piece

On 6/5/2019 at 1:36 AM, JKK said:

My first thought was: "something not right with that Trade Dollar." The color looks off, plated even.

The most likely argument for its authenticity, to my mind, is the drilling. That probably happened long before the modern era of very convincing fake TDs. It might be plated, it's certainly abused, but I have a hard time imagining it's not real--not because it tested as silver, but because I think that is one very old drill-and-patch job.

On 6/5/2019 at 12:22 AM, Mohawk said:

That's very true and it's good that you know that TON.  While many Trade Dollar fakes are laughable (I have actually seen one dated 2009.  No joke.  2009), there are some good ones that are well made and are made out of silver.  I'd check out our host's page on the 1875 CC Trade Dollar and see how your example matches up.  That could help get you moving with determining the authenticity of your coin.

On 6/5/2019 at 10:01 AM, Just Bob said:

I'm seeing an "S"

I still have no idea about the coin, unless it is an underweight planchet.

23 hours ago, Mohawk said:

Indeed it would.  That was one of the exact things I was thinking of when I said I'd feel much better theorizing about this coin if I had it in hand.  Like you said, Conder, the coin is in tolerance for a clad proof, but that edge would be the weirdest clad proof edge I've ever seen, and being a seller of US moderns, I've seen a lot of clad and silver proof Ike edges.  That edge looks like a silver proof edge to me all day.  This is a strange one.......

12 hours ago, TON Collection said:

 

12 hours ago, TON Collection said:

Here is tissue test

11 hours ago, Conder101 said:

Tissue test seems to indicate it IS silver, so it is apparently a severely underweight (thin) planchet error.

Just got to Sarasota Coin See if I can get some other suggestions down here. Thanks for everyone’s help

Here is tissue test

10 hours ago, Mohawk said:

Indeed it would.  That was one of the exact things I was thinking of when I said I'd feel much better theorizing about this coin if I had it in hand.  Like you said, Conder, the coin is in tolerance for a clad proof, but that edge would be the weirdest clad proof edge I've ever seen, and being a seller of US moderns, I've seen a lot of clad and silver proof Ike edges.  That edge looks like a silver proof edge to me all day.  This is a strange one.......

Something is way wrong with this. If you guys seen what the metal tester gun said at the dealer today you guys would be scratching your head and wonder how in the hell that happened 

You guys kick

I am gonna take pics today at coin shop and show you all the gold, silver and copper ratio

2 hours ago, JKK said:

In my FIL's collection I found five gold-plated 1976 Ikes. I think my MIL had bought them for him off a TV channel, innocently thinking this was a Great Thing. Don't know if that has bearing on this. (I couldn't stomach having them in my collection, so I distributed them among his grandkids (my nieces and nephs).)

I probably do the same thing with this one I’ve had those plates gold ones as well. But this much underweight peaked my interest 

7 hours ago, Just Bob said:

I think "The Way of the Woolly Mammoths " would be a good band name.

And, I agree that the cent posted above has been stained by contact with a Memorial Cent reverse and some substance which caused the design to be transferred. Not a mint error.

Keep hunting, though, TON. You are finding some interesting stuff, and your attitude is good.

Thanks bob I appreciate that. I love coins Huge part of my life

13 minutes ago, Just Bob said:

It was definitely mounted on something.

Makes me wonder if it is real. 

I thought it could be fake as well. But it tested as silver not that means it is real

11 minutes ago, Just Bob said:

It was definitely mounted on something.

Makes me wonder if it is real. 

Me to bob

Does anyone know how or why this happened to this coin?

Please help with this one my coin dealer had no answers for me as well and 6 different scales.  One coin dealer metal testing machine even showed a hence bit of gold. But this one is tricky

Could this be a possible error? 

Just now, TON Collection said:

On 6/1/2019 at 1:06 PM, Coin Cave said:

Your coin is still a nice nickel.  1965-67 SMS coins are a cool set to collect.  Look for SMS coins with cameo effects.  Cameo SMS coins are also rare. 

Like this kennedy but 1969 proof

3 hours ago, Coin Cave said:

It looks to be a nickel from an SMS set.  The SMS coins, like proof coins, don't get a Full Step designation in todays grading.  Only cameo or ultra cameo.  If you do locate a nice mint state business strike 1965 Jefferson nickel with full steps that would be the money shot.  Keep looking.

Well well I did not know that.   POOP