MarkFeld

I haven’t seen it.

Yes, he did and so did Mark Feld. I do that more than on rare occasions.

Based on the pictures, my guess would have been 64.

My bet is that you omitted, paraphrased and/or misconstrued something.

The one side that I can see looks like a 64.

I can’t imagine PCGS replying to such an email, and without first re-examining the coin, stating “no problem” with respect to an upgrade.

Before you stated “Carrying on this was graded an MS-64 by pcgs, I dont see it.... Minimum 65...” When you complain about a coin like that in such a way, it severely undermines your credibility.

Actually, the 1881-S might have served as an excellent example. Based on the images, if you thought it deserved a 65 or better, you don’t appear to be on the same page as PCGS and NGC.

I would have guessed 64. Regardless, PCGS need not be ashamed.

So we see it precisely the same.😄 But seriously, I’m glad you posted, as I figured you had probably handled them.

I’m not at all familiar with those coins, but my guess is MS63. That’s due to the discoloration on the cheek and neck, the marks on the lower right part of the neck and upper left portion of the cap, the marks beneath and to the left of the rooster, the marks on the left wing and the marks behind its neck and head. That said, the pictures aren’t very clear. And for all I know, the coin could have rub/be AU and/or have altered surfaces. Regardless of how it was graded by PCGS, NGC or anyone else, that says nothing about the validity of the thread originator’s complaints.

I’ve seen many coins offered the same way when the person was living, as well.

It’s not a Cheerios or Goodacre example - if you do a web search, it should be easy to tell - and it’s not unusual to find very well preserved regular examples such as yours.

The more you post, the less credibility you have.

That makes it sound as if most of the coins weren’t graded by NGC, previously. And to me, at least, as if they were probably liberally graded.

Why not?

Curiously, what was the cost of the NGC membership?

I’m under the impression that the coins have been graded once, not twice. And that the “66+” was the poster’s opinion on an ungraded coin. Hopefully, he can set the record straight.

Based on the image, the scratch doesn’t appear fresh. If it were, it would likely be shiny.

Welcome to the forum. Your dime is worth 10 cents and OK to spend.

if you look at coins such as 1965 SMS quarters, both companies use “SMS”. Can you give an example of what you’re speaking of?

As far as I know, “SP” is for “Specimen”, which is different from “proof. And I’ve not heard of “Special Proof”.

Whether unintentionally or otherwise, that seller used the term “Special Mint Sets” incorrectly. Of course, if you know who believes the sets to be accurately described, he should buy all of them at $89/set and make an easy and large fortune. I believe he knows better, however.

If you believe it's an SMS example, you should submit it for grading. My guess is that you don't and won't, even though you apparently thought it worthy of two different threads,.

If you believe what you wrote, you should submit it for grading. My guess is that you don't and won't.