Oldhoopster

You said QA is an acquired taste, So are anchovies, liver, and broccoli

Looks like a cast fake

You wrote To Moderation, if it pleases the gentleman I have the utmost regard for, from ever uttering his name on the Forum again, his wish (and yours) is my command. Q.A. It's about time. Nothing like a semi-sarcastic comment to endear yourself to the moderators. Go ahead and respond directly to my comments. But I'm still wondering why you feel the need to keep tagging me in unrelated conversations? You never provided an answer in your previous soliloquy. Did you feel that it was imperative that I read your comment regarding incorrect word usage in old posts? If so, why? Or are you just trying to stir the pot and cause trouble?

That would be a great post....if this was a lexicography forum. Last I checked this was still a numismatic forum. I think if your pulling up 4 month old threads about a coin show that is long since over because the word usage bothers you, you have more to worry about than whether another member corrects you. One last thing. Can you explain why you felt the need to tag me in old thread in which I've never responded? Is there a purpose, or are you just trying to stir things up? I seem to recall that you specifically commented that the mods had you on a short leash.

Do they even allow mint employees to bring loose change onto the production floor? Anybody know for certain? I can see the conversation with security, "honestly, I had a pocket full of 2022 quarters when I came in this morning". Seems like a bad idea. I think sending it in is a waste of $65+, but it's your money and your decision. Personally, I think you would have better luck buying lottery tickets

Yes. Quite a few of these spectacular errors came out of the San Francisco mint in the early 70s. A large number were found in an abandoned safety deposit box and were auctioned by the state of CA after getting approval from the Secret Service (I believe they were purchased by Fred Weinberg). That had to have been an organized effort over many years and they also had access to the proof presses. I don't know for certain, but it seems it would be much easier to pull off these shenanigans on a low throughput proof press than on a production press.

Glad to see that you're ok. Praying for those that suffered losses

People forget that the mint is a high speed, high volume manufacturing facility. They strike multiple coins per second! That copper waterfall are the cents going from the presses to the totes. So how are you going to load a Canadian cent into the front end of the press and then retrieve it? You're not going to shut down the press, because everyone will know. Downtime, throughput, yields, etc are all monitored and tracked and supervisors have instant access to that data. And that's why its difficult just to make the error surreptitiously, then you have to get it out of the facility through mint security. Good luck Just a stained cent

So you're saying that a mint employee risked their job to slip a Canadian cent into the striking chamber, retrieved that cent, smuggled it out of the mint, sold it to someone, then somehow it entered circulation for you to find later? If anybody was going to try something like that, they would have a very difficult time retrieving the coin after it was struck

Sorry, but it looks like a stained US cent. Environmental Damage.

Sorry, but it is badly damaged. Something like this cannot come from the minting or die making process

It was originally in an encased cent or lucky penny holder and then removed. Not a mint error

As long as you aren't purposely trying to stir up trouble, you're not a troll IMO I could think of a few other things to call you, but troll isn't one of them

For many of us old guys, it just comes down to looking at a whole lot of coins over the decades. You may have looked up something similar in the past, or remember seeing it in Krause or another reference. You would be surprised how many times I would be looking for something in Krause and stumble onto to something Else that I remembered was in my "to be identified" pile. That's why I prefer books to internet searches. You just miss out on a lot of things that can pay you back later. I consider myself pretty good at identifing most stuff from about 1600 on except the early Pieces from pre colonial India. But I was at a loss for the coin in the OP. Well done @Mr.Bill347 So look at lots of different coins whenever possible. It will help your identification skills, it will help you grading skills, and it will help your counterfeit detection skills.

Sorry but it's a tourist copy. Probably cast. It's very difficult to take coins and artifacts from Turkey without the proper paperwork, but since these are fake, the seller won't get in trouble with the authorities.

Wow. Thank you mods for getting rid of the trolling thread from earlier today. That was quick, especially considering it's a weekend. Job well done Now if the mods of some other coin forums would be as good.

Your coin is 2004, not 2000. Goodacre dollars were struck with special dies and planchets giving them a burnished appearance. There was nothing specific about the edge.

Mechanical doubling is not true doubling and will not be attributed as a DDO. Wexler, on his doubled die site calls it "worthless doubling".

I have a few Canadian coins graded by ICCS and IMO, the grading is similar to other TPGs in the 90s (when I got the coins). As Kurt said, ICCS has been a reputable grader of Canadian coins.

Do you think these would qualify for an Early Strike/First Day of Issue or some other fancy label on a slab?

That was an interesting thread. I wasn't aware of dinner or presentation of newly minted coins, so it's always nice to learn something new. So how does a dinner for a mint director to mark the release of the Franklin half relate to Saudi Gold? I can't even begin to connect the dots.

I found the course useful and interesting. I knew a lot of the material, so it was more of a reinforcement rather than learning new things but I also believe that you need to stay on top of your knowledge so you don't forget the info. If I recall correctly, the info was geared more towards the intermediate/advanced collector. Definitely not newbie stuff

@VKurtB I apologize for going off the rails with my post. It was not warrented.

I thought the same thing, hence my comment about the possibility of a TPG or auction house sponsoring something like this (to clarify with @RWB, my comment was for them to sponsor the research, not do the actual work. Lots of starving researchers who will work for grant money). But they are the ones who decide what areas to best utilize their resources.