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The name suggests that debris stuck to a die. Multiple coins were struck, each showing a different stage of deterioration in the debris.

Recycled pre-1942 cents were also used for their tin content.

I promised to post this --- someplace --- hope this is the correct spot. CIVILIAN PRODUCTION ADMINISTRATION Washington 25, D. C. November 20, 1946 ARMaupin November 25, 1946 Tin, Lead and Zinc Br. Room 4346, SSB Miss Nellie Taylor Ross Director of the Mint. Treasury Department Office of the Director of the Mint Washington 25, D. C. Dear Miss Ross: Reference is made to your letter dated November 12, 1946 and past telephone conversations, in respect to using tin in the United States 1-cent piece. In studying the statement of the law included in your letter, namely that the alloy of the 1-cent piece shall be 95 per centum of copper and 5 per centum of tin and zinc, would be interpreted to mean that only a trace of tin would be required to meet the law. You have indicated that we would be willing to allow up to 0.25% instead of 1% tin which apparently was once used. It seems to us from the knowledge we have of the 1-cent piece, that any such quantity of tin adds no value to the coin and in fact probably hinders production. It seems to me that under the present conditions, the law would be fully satisfied if the tin content was held at 0.01%, or even less. However, we have decided that 1,500 pounds of tin you have requested immediately available to be divided as you find fit. In view of the fact that tin is so short in supply, we respectfully request that you keep tin content less than 0.1% or rather at the lowest figure possible to be considered as a chemical content. We believe that 0.01% is considered a definite chemical content and that such quantity can be readily detected by chemical analysis. Pursuant to Paragraph (m) of Order M-43, you are permitted to use not more than 1,500 pounds of tin in the production of coinage ingots, provided that the tin is used only in smallest quantities to meet minimum requirements of law. This tin may be distributed to coinage institutions as you see fit. The provisions of Paragraph (9) of Order M-43 (as amended July 5, 1946) are waived to the extent required to obtain the relief as authorized above, provided that all other provisions of Order M-43 and all other applicable orders and regulations of the Civilian Production Administration are fully complied with. Very truly yours, Approved: J. Joseph Whelan Nov. 25, 1946

From your photos, those rolls are just about "half baked."

Uhmmmm...I shall meditate on that ... Ommmmmm. Ommmmmmm.Ommmmmmmmmm

Good. That can be a difficult area to copy when making fakes. Best to send it to NGC for in-hand evaluation. Good Luck!

Drag and drop the photos to a reply window. JPGs work well.

Learning has a beginning but never ends.

Send your coin to NGC for authentication. The photo suggests at value of about $10,000 if genuine.

"tueatur unita deus" = God protects those who are united "noni soit qui mal y pense" = no one thinks badly about it Look for initials "WW" at lower right obverse: [Photo from "The Gothic Crown: Victorian Art and the Road to Decimalisation"]

Thank you for the kind remarks.

Skip "red-dit" and "Craps List" and similar junk sites. Populated by crooks and scammers.

Cannot tell from the photos. Also need weight, diameter,thickness, etc. There are a few very high quality counterfeits but they are seldom seen. Off-hand nothing jumps out. Here's an authentic 1847 from a Heritage auction.

Did not know that Ford made Crown Victorias in 1847. Where did they find tyres for them....? Also, your reverse image is upside down.

No. It's merely badly worn. Please avoid u-tube coin error videos. They are garbage.

The first part is a lot like how the old manual coin counters worked - matched stack height against slot width. (The video is from the West Point Mint site.)

This won't help either: https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/bohemia-maley-groschen-mb-240-1577-160z-cuid-115632-duid-296646. Someone else might have info. [No need to post the uncropped photos.]

Please provide sharp, cropped photos of both sides of each coin. Also, try to set the color balance as in the 2nd photo -- the color in your 1st photo is misleading. (Members can't give you much information about lined paper.)

These are not legitimate "trial pieces" as understood by American collectors. There is no connection to real circulating coinage. These were deliberately made to catch a buck (or many bucks) from crows, mice and other accumulators of shiny objects. They are part of a product development and sales program put together by a contractor, and the "auctions" merely use Royal Mint trade dress to add an air of "legitimacy and gravitas" to the hawking of trinkets. (Compare to gem and jewelry sales on TV, or the "Royal Canadian Mint" scam.) This is simply a gross abuse of the authentic Royal Mint's cachet.

No political stuff, please.

It appeared in a thread that was closed today, but the comment did not seem to be a cause.

This appeared on a site on the other side of the tracks. Can someone please translate? Mint mark is a mark on a coin from the mint. If a coin from the mint has a mint mark, it is an error—if the coin does not come from the mint nor have a mint mark, that is also an error. Many of these coins have die on them. A die is something on coins’s surfaces and two of them on a coin (double die, dice) are gold in your pocket. Double die (dice) shows up with DDO, DDR, cuds, and ANACS on the coin as well. They’re easy to identify because they’re one of a kind. Many are certified without certification. You have to keep an open mind when you look at certain sellers’ coins now.

Here's a handy explanation. https://www.free-bullion-investment-guide.com/troy.html

John Danreuther's book on proof gold is about as close as it comes, but it is not detailed on how and why.

If each person in the United States retained $100 in gold coin, the total would exceed all gold ever coined in the U.S. or mined. Most of the coins were already in Treasury possession and had been for decades....there was very little public demand.