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In case anyone is wondering here is what triggered this meltdown, I really don't see anything wrong with the info that was provided but I guess it's all in how you perceive it. Link to the trigger @Noob115 there is nothing you can do to delete your account; you will need to contact a moderator as only they can delete an account. I would encourage you to read the replies above and let the jets cool down before you take any actions, emotional reactions are not always the best way to go.

It would make a nice album coin, there is already some minor spotting and discoloration due to circulation so not one that should be considered for submission to a TPG for grading. I would second the idea of an acetone bath to remove any finger oils and other contaminates that may still be on the coin.

Darker than I would like, but in an ANA ANACS style holder.

Congrats on your VAM set. My registry set with the most views has just over 6,500 views, however, I never have bothered to track the number of views or try and break that down. I started the set in 2011 so simple math says that is just over 500 views per year.

Why are you trying to compaire a circulation strike to a proof strike?

Welcome to the forum, in the future inquires like this are better posted in the US coin or Newbie sections of the forum, this area is for questions that revolve around the registry. Plus more forum members are likely to see your posts in those two sections than here. As I do not see any obvious scraping or filling marks this is Most likely due to a grease filled die. At times areas of the die will be clogged with grease or other debris which doesn't allow for metal to flow into that spot of the die during the striking of the coin. It's very common on modern coinage which makes sense given the massive quantities of coins that are struck for circulation today. This is a bit less common for coinage of the 1800's, but not unheard of.

I would not expect someone of your obvious low character and equally low ethics/morals to understand the "big negative".

Spam is what sellers do when they shamelessly post their coins for sale disguised as something else. And no this entire forum is not like FB or Insta for internet sellers to hawk their coins on every thread. The marketplace section of the forum is where you can advertise, the rest of this forum is for education and general coin related conversation.

100% a bezel, it also looks like the obv rim of the bezel was slightly folded over, perhaps to better retain the coin or maybe just from use as a pendant. The coin itself has no significant collector value in that condition, worth roughly $28-$30 for the silver, the bezel itself might also be silver. Rather than damage the coin or the bezel it would be best to leave it as is. Welcome to the forum.

Reported.

You could always start your own grading service and offer this service.

This is the NGC registry section of the forum, if you want to buy or sell please use the Marketplace section of the forum.

Looks like a normal close AM to me from your photos. The initials are clearly that of a close AM.

Do you also have the same disdain for NGC and its graders for grading those common coins in common grades? You do realize that CAC doesn't pick and choose what gets sent to them, just as NGC or PCGS doesn't choose to not grade common coins in common grades that get sent to them, right?

Zinc rot. spend it before it turns to zinc dust.

Grading is already highly subjective, TPG's do not (and should not) want to open themselves up to that kind of problem. I personally think it is just fine the way it is, leave it to the market to determine the price of problem coins not the TPG's.

What you have bought is a counterfeit, there were no silver eagles struck at the west point mint in 1986, sorry.

As greenstang wrote we would need to see photos of both sides to see the condition, photos should be cropped so that we see more of the coin than the background. From only the obv photo you supplied your coin looks to be lightly circulated and not reprocessed. Here is a screenshot of sales from the Great Collections archives, they have not auctioned any AU examples and only one circulated coin an XF several years ago. But from this you can see there is not much price spread form that XF to a low MS example. If you are planning to try and sell the coin raw I would guess a fair value would be around $75. If you were to send this to NGC for certification and it was graded as AU58 it might fetch more as there is some demand for AU58 examples for the everyman registry sets.

Not initials, just damage to the coin while in circulation.

All ASE (American silver eagle) coins coined in 1986 were produced in the SF mint, there are no W minted coins from that year. Are you sure you are not confusing the designers initials as a mintmark? Edited to add: you posted an ad to buy, who is the seller?

This is part of how a convincing scam artist runs a good scam, you have to convince the mark that you are legit. How better to look legit than to offer a generous return policy and work with ebay to remove any neutral or negative feedback so you keep your feedback score looking pristine. The reason this seller offers such an outstanding return policy is because they know some of the coins they sell are going to be returned, this helps them to avoid or have ebay remove any negative feedback. All I can say is that I've provided plenty of warning on this seller, anyone that buys from them deserves what they get. Edited to add: @Jason Abshier looking at an ebay sellers feedback score is useless if you don't do some digging. Here is a screenshot of Denver Coins Co feedback, take note of the 4 neutral ratings in the past 6 months, if those were not removed for the seller by ebay the score would be less than 100%. Then take a close look at the bottom right of this screenshot, see the verbiage that says revised feedback and that number is 74. That means that 74 buyers left something other than a positive feedback rating which they changed, why it was changed we do not know.

While the original point of this thread is moot, I'm just trying to understand your shorthand. Am I reading this correctly that you paid $34 for the coin raw? And what is GV? the NGC coin explorer shows the price guide at $60.

Here is a timely thread on the PCGS forum that touches on the issue of gradeflation in low circulated grades. I think that Bill's reply toward the end of the thread is the most correct with regards to the coin in question and how it should have been graded. And while we will never know in this case, I suspect that the grade analysis put forth by Bill would be a likely outcome had this been graded in say 1988 or thereabouts. Linky