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And I’ll add that many of the sources you are using to look at this stuff was written and published by people, often who are members here responding, as well as on all the other major coin forums.
I promise you this, you will get the EXACT same response from every reputable coin forum online, maybe the only place you won’t is in YouTube comments. Just food for thought.
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On 12/13/2023 at 12:36 PM, Fitzon00 said:@powermad5000 thank you so much for realizing it’s not the same coin and proving my point of how people in this group think they know so much. Much respect and thank you for your insight with out being contradicting with what you say. Most people just want to be right and make others share their opinions. It’s not the same pic. https://www.lincolncentresource.com/doubledies/1994ddo1.html
it’s from a 1994 DDR that apparently doesn’t exist or “people mistakenly think” was the quote I think. But again thank you for your info and I’ll be sure to keep hunting.
So, was the effort here to make it seem like people here don’t know anything or did I just misread your post? Multiple times a month someone comes on a coin forum and tries to catch the people with a mismatched photo or something completely different. I find it always interesting when that happens. Why would someone come on to ask a question only to waste not only their own time, but time of people here who are actively trying to help people.
Now I’m not saying that was your approach, but in general that kind of “defensive” move is often associated with a poster who got bad news and now wants to blame the forum members for that bad news.
If I misunderstood your above post, I apologize, but when I see “for realizing it’s not the same coin and proving my point of how people in this group think they know so much” that is generally not really a great statement. There are world renowned experts here who are helping everyone. I think that’s a pretty big red flag.
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As others have said, worth more than face value because they were struck in silver during this time. But value wise, not very much. You will get just below melt value so expect if you are selling to not net more than a few dollars for all three. Hope that helps.
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come on. You really think after 17+ years and over 10000 posts that because you are “confused”, that all of a sudden that fun loving thread that almost any coin collector can participate in should now have the rules altered for you??
I have never seen a member here do so much damage to their own reputation than you have sir/madam. I even tried to give you another chance here. You really need to think hard about this. If you are trolling, great job. But I actually don’t think you are, which is where I (and many others) are starting to worry. This is NOT an example of all press is good. You are literally destroying any meaningful chance of being in the business of selling coins by your posts and shockingly to me, you don’t seem to understand that. We are not crazy internet people here, you are literally talking to the REAL people of the hobby.
edited to add (and correct spelling) that particular post has over 827000 views. Yours have 300 on the high end generally. Seriously, who are you lol.
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On 11/28/2023 at 12:33 PM, dprince1138 said:
The only posting rules listed in the initial post are;
"Let's say next someone post an image of a 1936 Washington quarter. You would now need to post a pic of the same type coin (a Washington quarter) or anything dated 1936."Currently posted;
1831 Coronet Head cent. (The year is easily visible, imho).
1853 Braided Hair cent.What has been done in the past is that the series was broken to return to the prior series. However, I will continue with the latest posting.
If there needs to be any additional rules considered, then I would recommend editing the initial post with any additionalal rules.
Lol. Seriously!
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I know reaching out to the moderator here has not removed this “person” but let’s give dprince another chance. My suggestions above are correct and I ask dprince now here to start trying better. I hope he/she can do that. It’s pretty scary to believe with what you are posting, and then seeing you’ve sold to so many people. In general, this is the issue/problem these forums are trying to eliminate. So, act accordingly and try to improve your image
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On 11/28/2023 at 12:37 PM, dprince1138 said:
I will post and sell coins on ebay as I see fit.
I don’t disagree, nobody stopping you from that. Just understand there are a lot of “watchdogs” and now you opened yourself up to that. I am not one to tell anyone how to do things, but at least I got you to respond with something other than “thanks for your participation/bump”.
Seriously, try to repair your relationship with this forum. Then, try harder outside of this forum, because your reputation is very much compromised.
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Do you have interest in being a coin dealer? If so, you should really at this point try a new approach. Unknown to you is that your name has circulated a lot outside of this forum and you posted your eBay name. So, you may now want to take a new approach before you are literally blacklisted by many of collector and dealer.
I now thank you for your participation.
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On 11/28/2023 at 10:38 AM, powermad5000 said:
You got the typical non engagement response designed to inflame. Please report his post even if it is this non engaging type. The mods need more reporting to stop this. He refuses to participate in constructive discussion or reply with a response related to a direct question and needs to be reported for violating forum guidelines.
What is failed to be understood is that 99% of coins by definition are R1. There is no sense listing every 1909 VDB Lincoln Cent with an R rating. Or every 1979 D Susan B Anthony. Even the trade dollars I cherish don't need to be listed with a rarity number. Top sellers usually only begin to include R numbers at R4 and up.
Making a big deal of this is just another way he is self promoting this terrible thread and shady eBay business.
And yea, we know...following this will be the junk reply of thanks for the bump or thanks for your participation.
Oh I have. I’m sure many others have as well. I think it is very important to point out here that (most) everyone in this group would be happy to help someone like dprince if it wasn’t for their horrible approach and complete lack of understanding of how to talk/engage with the community. Nobody needs a “smartass” who just copies online information, of varying accuracy.
This person could have helped his understanding of coins the last few weeks, instead that person does not realize that they have done some serious damage to their “aspiring” business and pretty much has no chance of recovery on any major coin forum as many of us are members of them all. I’ve never seen such a “hang yourself” approach in all the years of reading this forum (though I have seen a few do it on other sites)
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On 11/28/2023 at 9:08 AM, dprince1138 said:
On another side note. I began posting the rarity rating when I was asked about an 1807 half dollar, with an R1 rated die variety (O-112), that I had listed. I explained to the requester the details and that this was not a very rare type.
Of the 10 1807 O-112 half dollars currently listed on ebay, only one indicates R1. It is not simple to find rarity designations.
Pretty simple to understand dprince. You don’t see R1 or R2 that often as it is irrelevant to selling such an item. There is no premium whatsoever for the most common varieties. Imagine offering something for sale, and the sales pitch was, “this is the most common type/variety for the series”. For someone selling coins and having 2200+ feedback on eBay, it’s concerning to me (and I assume many others) that you do not seem to understand even the basic information about numismatics. Plus your attitude and “personality” are both poor at best. This community (not this forum but the coin community) is very close knit, it would be in your best interest if you are planning to continue selling to maybe relook at your approach, because you seriously have all the red flags and that doesn’t often have a good outcome in the long term. By being here, you are exposed to a lot more true collectors and we all talk a lot!
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On the flip side I guess someone could have made themselves such a toilet accessory. I doubt it, but anything is possible! I hate to ask, but do you have an image?
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Haha, what a great question and one I’ve never seen asked. Truthfully, the work to get them out of such a novelty toilet bowl (which I’ve seen many times amazingly) is NOT worth the trouble. First off, many toilet bowls with this are often faked better coins with quarters mixed in. But believe me, there is no real value beyond what such a toilet bowl “seating area” would be worth. They sold these in novelty magazines in the 80s/90s. Never heard anyone ever ask them before (though I’m sure someone has!)
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On 11/23/2023 at 5:12 PM, cobymordet said:
This post 11/22/2018, was the oldest post that I could reply on. I think I "bump"ed it.
You did bump it!!
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On 11/20/2023 at 11:31 AM, BillJones said:
My upper limit on raw items is much lower for U.S. coins than it is for foreign coins, tokens and medals. The reason is that certification is so engrained in the U.S. coin market. If the coin is not slabbed, you won't get the best price for it.
I really dislike certified medals. The trouble is the slabs are so big that storing them is a problem. A valuable medal takes up a lot of space in safe deposit box if it is slabbed. You also can't enjoy the piece as well.
NGC does a wonderful with grading imperial Roman coins. Still I prefer the coins raw. I can handle the pieces, and I can take better photographs.
Very good take Bill. I was going to comment as a specialist in early American coins, tokens, medals etc. a lot of what I buy is raw already. So I don’t really have a “limit” in that regard, though often there are 5 and even 6 figure coins of this nature totally raw. Matter fact, many of the collectors buy a coin holdered, and break it out right away to keep it raw in their collection. Though with federal coinage today, as Bill said, my limit would be lower unless viewing in hand!
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No doubt haha! I guess I should have been a bit more specific haha! Was probably meaning everyone else “in that thread”. But no question we’ve seen it all with past members, most long gone at this point, but always seem to be a new contender in the race!
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On 11/22/2023 at 3:09 PM, PolarAce said:
Thank you for the background information and details. I appreciate it.
Hey PolarAce!
Very sorry your thread got derailed because of a pest of a member we have here on the forums. Yes it is a plating crack, but first off, fantastic photography and actually I like the coin with the plating crack, as while it may be a little different than normal, it is different than most (I like different!!).
I hope you keep posting and showing more of your coins!
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Does anyone here see a similarity between dprince and slickcoins? Maybe they aren’t the same, but exact same nonsense.
dprince: please find another place to go! We honestly need that because we all try hard here and I’m wasting so much time correcting your bull
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On 11/22/2023 at 11:56 AM, ldhair said:
Actually he never will answer a question. He is out to scam the members on this site. If you make him mad he will trash any thread you start with false, off topic information. He cracks problem coins out of slabs and sells them using false information. Please report his actions to the mods. Over time, NGC will see this and correct the problem.
Just so everyone else sees this. Absolutely correct and DPRINCE needs to find a new place to go. Many of us here have worked very hard volunteering our time to have this jerk say what he is doing here. Seriously!
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On 11/22/2023 at 1:05 AM, dprince1138 said:
Rotated dies are not too unusual. Just FYI, the steel penny is coated with zinc. You my want to check which pennies have low mint numbers or have a relatively uncommon die variety.
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS POSTER. He is wrong on everything and hurts the hobby with what he is doing
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On 11/22/2023 at 1:33 PM, dprince1138 said:
I saw the movie.
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON! He is not knowledgeable or on the up and up. Dprince. Please find another site to bother:
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On 11/22/2023 at 7:01 AM, dprince1138 said:
Very pretty coin.
I do not know, but I did find an article about this type of strike.
https://coinweek.com/1921-s-morgan-dollar-zerbe-proof-a-collectors-guide/
Also, off topic, the Morgan 1921 dollar has a host of variations and die issues.
https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plus/united-states/dollars/morgan-dollars-1878-1921/?page=4
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON!! Everything he has said is wrong. Everyone else has given correct advice.
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On 11/22/2023 at 3:28 PM, dprince1138 said:
My initial thought of possible die variety was that I saw what could be repunch markers. Reviewing as much as I could from the images, I could not find any signs of a die variety. Here is an MS67 example by PCGS for comparison.
Please do not listen to the above advice. This is strictly an insufficiently_thoughtful_person who has guided many collectors wrong. All other members on this board are worth listening to, but please ignore DPrince
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On 11/22/2023 at 3:38 PM, dprince1138 said:
You got to stop with the misinformation dude. I mean, this is again a whole different coin. And, honestly, if you can’t see the different between plating and die crack, you really need to STOP and learn just the basic of coins: I’m wasting a lot of time responding to you, but I am a person who teaches, gives information, helps collectors yearly free of charge. A person like you diminishes all the work I do daily. At this point, you are just a disgrace to the hobby and really need to find a new place to go.
dprince. You are an awful addition to the hobby and honestly hurt all of us who are actually trying to teach and help the next generation. Consider this, you are absolutely awful and should be ashamed of yourself. I can’t imagine you have found any help to your shady business with the responses you have received. Can I recommend the many other coin forums which you will also receive the same response. However, you are DONE here
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On 11/21/2023 at 12:27 PM, dprince1138 said:
One of the examples that I had mentioned, is when the motto "In God We Trust" was added mid production to the 1866 seated liberty half dollar. There are a number of arrow\no arrow dates, but the no arrow dies are costly.
DPrince (price lol). Listen, each coin is individual for itself. You cannot keep comparing wrong or different coins to one. Please STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know you are trying to establish yourself, but look at my post count. Very small, because I answer questions directly if needed. Take that advice to heart. What is the point with your posts??
People who come here are trying to learn correct information about collecting coins. You have been nothing but copy/paste information from Google. Time to stop and learn sir/madam. Everyone is telling you the same thing.
here is a question for you I hope you answer…..why does everyone disagree with you?? Answer that please and all will make sense!
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Is it a better grade than what I paid for?
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Well, if I understand your question correctly, NGC (or ANY other grading service) grades every coin the same way. You don’t get a better grade by paying for a higher tier. The only difference in cost is time taken to grade and of course if the value of the coin itself is higher than 3000, then the fees go up accordingly.
BUT, you CANNOT pay more money for a higher grade. Otherwise the grading system would be awfully flawed and I don’t think we would have much of a market if that were the case. Now, if you submit a $10,000 coin under the “standard” tier pricing (up to 3k) NGC will catch that and charge you the appropriate amount based on their grading fee structure. So that little trick does not work at all! Hope that helps.