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Hard Times

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  1. This token was payable only in Newgate PRISON, the temporary residence of Messrs Symonds, Winterbotham, Ridgway & Holt in 1794 and 1795. These gentlemen were somehow responsible for the manufacture of numerous common commercial tokens from behind bars!* Obviously, no redemption at Newgate was possible but these tokens did circulate widely. Good protest tokens for sure.

     

    Per Dalton & Hamer, briefly...

     

    • Symonds was publisher of the 'Jockey Club' and the 'Second Part of The Rights of Man.'

    • James Ridgway was convicted of the same offenses as Symonds.

    • Winterbotham was a dissenting minister convicted for preaching two seditious discourses.

    • Daniel Holt, printer of the Newark Herald, for selling some of Paine's writings.

     

    Wikipedia-Newgate Prison

     

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    * Just kidding - this token and its siblings were manufactured by Kempson

     

     

  2. From Wikipedia:

     

    London Corresponding Society was a moderate-radical body concentrating on reform of the Parliament of Great Britain, founded on 25 January 1792. The creators of the group were John Frost (1750-1842), an attorney, and Thomas Hardy, a shoemaker and metropolitan Radical. The aim of the society was parliamentary reform, especially the expansion of the representation of working class people.

     

    In common with the other corresponding societies its membership was predominantly drawn from artisans and working men: early members included Joseph Gerrald, Francis Place, Edward Marcus Despard, Maurice Margarot and Olaudah Equiano. The London Corresponding Society had affiliates in Manchester, Norwich, Sheffield and Stockport.

     

    The society irritated the establishment with its opposition to the wars with France and was deeply infiltrated by spies. A British Convention of reform group leaders in Edinburgh organised by the Scottish Friends of the People society in October 1793 was broken up and a number of men were arrested and tried for sedition. The LCS representatives, Gerrald and Maragot, were sentenced to fourteen years transportation. John Frost received only six months for his sedition. Undaunted, the remaining LCS leaders met with other reformist groups, including the Society for Constitutional Information, in 1794 to discuss a further national convention as well as producing a large number of pamphlets and periodicals.

     

    Read More On Wikipedia

     

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  3. You are incorrect about the $600 grading fee...that fee is charged for known ultra rarities which you do not know you have yet, in fact can never be, because I do not think it is in the same circle as say a 1913 Liberty nickel or even a 1804 silver dollar.

     

    I say just for the record, that I think most of this story is BS, unless you have definite proof, but til then I remain skeptical.

     

    Stranger things have happened, but when they do, the people claiming offer proof, I have seen none.

     

    I do not like my leg pulled

     

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