Will the removal of " In God We Trust" from the edge of the...

[carson city]

Presidential Dollar series to either the obverse or reverse of the coin make these first two coins, Washington & Adams more desireable ? CoinWorld, July 2nd. reported that legislation is apparently moving forward to relocate the IGWT motto from the edge to either obverse or reverse side. Will these two coins be instant collectibles for everyone ? If passed, these two coins will certainly be unique !

 

I will put a few rolls away, also.

[jtryka]

I think they will be not different than the no motto versions of the Saint Gaudens eagle and double eagles from 1907-08. Just a subtype, like moving the mintmarks from the reverse to the obverse on most coins in the late 1960s.

[awb]

It's good to see our legislators hard at work on something worthwhile.

 

My favorite forward of late is the one demanding that we not accept these coins as change, due to the "removal of God from the coin," so that we can force them out of circulation. I guess the original writer of the e-mail has failed to notice that no quarter-sized dollar coin has been popular with the masses.

[camarasa-migration]

I'm confused - so is "In God we trust" being removed altogether or just relocated?

[jtryka]

The proposal is to relocate it to the obverse or reverse.

[Keleum]

which one? pick one, obverse or reverse?? Or is that how it got on the edge in the first place.

 

How about allowing for a silver spouse coin, too. I'll have to write my congressman.

[MunkyMan95]

which one? pick one, obverse or reverse?? Or is that how it got on the edge in the first place.

 

How about allowing for a silver spouse coin, too. I'll have to write my congressman.

 

They already offer bronze medals, they don't need silver ones too.

[DC Dawg]

H.R.2510 was introduced on May 24, 2007 by Virgil Goode (R-VA). There are 88 cosponsors, all members of the GOP. The bill was referred to the House Financial Services Committee, Barney Frank (D-MA) is the chairman.

 

As this bill is written, it calls for Section 5112(n)(2) of title 31, United States Code, to be amended to remove "In God We Trust" from the description of the edge and add "(F) INSCRIPTION OF `IN GOD WE TRUST'- The design on the obverse or the reverse shall bear the inscription `In God We Trust'."

 

A few realities:

• The bill is referred to a committee chaired by someone against this bill
• The committee chair controls the agenda and schedules hearings and votes
• Aside from Rep. Frank, there are 36 Dem0crats on the committee, none of them are cosponsors or supporters of this bill
• Less than half of the 34 GOP members are cosponsors
• Spencer Bachus (R-AL), the ranking member, is not a cosponsor of this bill

Therefore, considering the makeup of the committee, the political realities, that the chairman is against the bill, and the Mint is against the measure after spending a lot of money to purchase the machine to strike the edge lettering, the likelihood of this bill passing is slim to none, and slim is losing!

 

Edited to add: Just remember, just because a bill is introduced does not mean it will become the law. Sometimes, bills are introduced for show. I have a feeling is that this is a "show the folks back home we're listening" bill.

 

Scott

[Keleum]

Excellent summary Scott, now I don't have to call anyone.

[WinstonWare]

It took me a while to understand what this bill was for and now that I do I feel like I wasted my time .

[SkyMan]

which one? pick one, obverse or reverse??

 

 

...guess they'll have to flip a coin to decide.

 

 

 

 

Thank you for the info Scott!

[bsshog40]

Well there really ins't much room on either side. They will have to remove something or make the letters so small you can't read them.

[Revenant]

Well there really ins't much room on either side. They will have to remove something or make the letters so small you can't read them.

 

I think they might be able to pull it off by placing the letters on the reverse, underneath "United States of America." That or they could just completely redesign the reverse and give me my eagle back... stupid statue of liberty...

[construct]

I'm still resentful that they took the word "LIBERTY" off the coin.

[cpm9ball]

Congress is also looking at the possibility of changing the Sacagawea $. For one thing, they want to include her name, Sakakawea, which is the preferred Native American spelling. They would also like to replace the eagle on the reverse with noteworthy events, places, etc. in Native American history. The article in Coin World mentioned a few of the possibilities, but they did not mention others that should be noteworthy like 1) the Code Talkers, 2) the fact that the Seminole Tribe has never signed a peace treaty with the U.S., 3) the Seminoles win landmark decision allowing Native American tribes to establish casinos, 4) of course, there are numerous individuals of note like Sitting Bull, Geronimo, James Billy, etc. but we're not allowed to have a two-headed coin.

 

Chris

[Mirrored Morgan]

Will these two coins be instant collectibles for everyone ? If passed, these two coins will certainly be unique !

 

I would think that these two would certainly be unique, if they turn out to be the only ones. Thanks for the info Carson City, I will also be putting a few rolls away.