1830 Capped Bust - The Experts Chime in as I have No Clue :)

[jgrinz]

Looking to Purchasing ONE of these puppies just to say I have one. All you guys seem to love them and just the thought of them being that old kind is c00l to me. Its ONLY an 1830 but it is a coin that caught my EYE and I do have a GOOD EYE and well you know how it is ... I really like it ... Grades Condition Thought please and don't be nice be subjective and honest.

 

 

 

[MunkyMan95]

That's a KILLER coin! MS65???

 

Buy it, quick!

[jgrinz]

That's a KILLER coin! MS65???

 

No I don't think so ... I do not think it is even close to that

[Bruceswar]

That is a very nice coin MS 65 or MS 64. I like it alot.

[jgrinz]

That is a very nice coin MS 65 or MS 64. I like it alot.

 

You think so ..hmmm.. I was thinking 60-61 .. Still waiting for the

experts to chime in ... Where da boyz

 

[Bruceswar]

That is a very nice coin MS 65 or MS 64. I like it alot.

 

You think so ..hmmm.. I was thinking 60-61 .. Still waiting for the

experts to chime in ... Where da boyz

 

 

Way too much luster and lack of hits for MS 61.. Higher grade if you ask me.

[jgrinz]

That is a very nice coin MS 65 or MS 64. I like it alot.

 

You think so ..hmmm.. I was thinking 60-61 .. Still waiting for the

experts to chime in ... Where da boyz

 

 

Way too much luster and lack of hits for MS 61.. Higher grade if you ask me.

 

What should I expect to spend any clue ??

[JKK]

I'm not one of the experts, but I will tell you I think it's a beaut. It's prettier than mine, and mine's an easy AU with partial mint lustre. The focal areas look very nice, and I don't see anything that looks to me like wear. MS-60 at the least, perhaps 63. The overall eye appeal is a real strength; there simply cannot be vast numbers out there this nice.

[jtryka]

This is a large 0, looks to me like an O-121 (R3) though it could be an O-120 (they both have reverse R). The coin looks MS from the photos, could be as high as MS-63 in my opinion. Very nice half!

[jgrinz]

This is a large 0, looks to me like an O-121 (R3) though it could be an O-120 (they both have reverse R). The coin looks MS from the photos, could be as high as MS-63 in my opinion. Very nice half!

 

O-123 Large O variety, considered to be Rarity-1

So they say

[WinstonWare]

The coin is MS but I’m not sure where it would fall beyond that. It looks dipped and slightly retoned. It’s not the type of coin that I look for but there is a strong market for these. It is the quintessential jgrinz DBH

[jtryka]

O-123 Large O variety, considered to be Rarity-1

So they say

 

I think you are correct based on the allignment of the D and E. The 3rd line of stripe 2 and the middle line of stripe 3 should extend below the shield, but I could not see that from the photos.

 

Here is my 1830 small 0, O-118 for comparison. NGC graded this coin MS-61, though I bought it as a nice AU.

 

[123cents]

I'm thinking the bustie would grade MS-62 but I would have to see it in hand to make a final judgement.

[jgrinz]

The coin is MS but I’m not sure where it would fall beyond that. It looks dipped and slightly retoned. It’s not the type of coin that I look for but there is a strong market for these. It is the quintessential jgrinz DBH

 

Hey Winnie you been quiet lately - thanks for the Optimism - I can get this for a little over AU Money ... It might be a good pickup for my First one.

[WinstonWare]

The coin is MS but I’m not sure where it would fall beyond that. It looks dipped and slightly retoned. It’s not the type of coin that I look for but there is a strong market for these. It is the quintessential jgrinz DBH

 

Hey Winnie you been quiet lately - thanks for the Optimism - I can get this for a little over AU Money ... It might be a good pickup for my First one.

 

At a little over AU money I would buy this coin just to flip it. If it isn’t already holdered, send it to PCGS – they give friendly grades on dipped DBHs.

[Bruceswar]

quickly buy it!!

[jtryka]

I would certainly buy it for AU money!

[jesbroken]

I'm obviously not an expert Mike, but this coin should go MS63. I agree with the O-123-but is their a die lump in the upper part of A1(similiar to a B Reverse)? Is the mark on the face a scratch or is it a die feature? Value is really variant at this stage of this coin-all the value books are quite a bit apart. Good luck-if you like it I hope you get it. I would choke over it.

[jgrinz]

It is holdered already in a PCGS Slab - I am told its an old green thing that makes noise hehehe - I think he said it kinda of rattles hahahahahha

 

[MunkyMan95]

What's the grade on the slab?

 

Is it in an AU slab?

[Bruceswar]

first gen PCGS rattler nice!!

[jgrinz]

AU58

[MunkyMan95]

Unless the photos are hiding something, it's a lock for an upgrade.

[bsshog40]

I agree Mike. That looks much better than AU58. Looks like a great deal to me for AU money!!

[physics-fan3.14]

My first reaction was AU58. I agree with the current grade on the slab, however, I also think it would upgrade to at least MS-63.

[rbrown4]

Mike,

 

I tend to agree with the others regarding the coin deserving a higher grade than AU 58. It is a nice looking coin.

 

I hope you have better luck than I. NGC returned an 1838 as AU 58 that I will definitely send in again or to PCGS.

 

Good Luck, nice piece

 

Rey

[TomB]

The coin certainly appears to have been dipped and subsequently started to tone. The lack of any apparent skin on the piece makes me think this was more likely a modern dip, rather than an ancient one. In general, the strike on the 1830 issue is excellent and determining the grade would require one to really be able to rotate the coin under light to see if there were luster breaks on the high points. If this coin is slabbed by PCGS, as you write, and you can buy this coin at just over AU money then you should buy it immediately. It would not be a coin for my collection, since it is fairly screaming that it has been manipulated, but you could flip it for a tidy sum.

[Mozin]

If PCGS called it AU58, it certainly should be worth $650 or thereabouts. I like the look, and the wear is not apparent in the pictures. Laura Sperber at Legend would give at least $550 for it, even if it were doggy.

[James_OldeTowne]

I'll guess MS-61. That being said, you're almost better off leaving it in an AU-58 slab. 58 is often considered a higher grade than 61, if you catch my drift!

[jgrinz]

How does NGC do in grading these because that would my Ultimate goal - Upgrading via NGC ??