Edwardram Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I believe this is a cud error but let me know what you think. Any idea on the value or if gradable? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dprince1138 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Right off hand, I would say it is a die chip, which is very common. Mike Meenderink and Newenglandrarities 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKK Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Looks like it took a hit in circulation. Newenglandrarities 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bill347 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 This cent has been hit near the 7 just post mint damage. JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 12:59 AM, Edwardram said: Odd looking (9) in the date ... I believe this is a cud error ... Where do you see a cud? On 11/21/2023 at 1:03 AM, dprince1138 said: I would say it is a die chip No, wrong. If you actually looked at the photos you would see the "9" as well as the "7" in the date have taken hits, moving around the soft copper metal. JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 PMD with no extra value. It would cost you $60.00 or more to have a coin worth 1 cent to be graded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 A cud occurs when a part of the die breaks off and metal flows into the space around the rim. Cuds always involve the rim of the coin. This cent just took some big hits displacing some of the metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Meenderink Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/20/2023 at 10:03 PM, dprince1138 said: Right off hand, I would say it is a die chip, which is very common. You sure you don't see some non existent "variety" or "double strike conditions" come on usually your answers are silly wrong but this one is just plain wrong...come on you can do better... Newenglandrarities 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 just a product of her years of service. thank her and give her a proper send off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newenglandrarities Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Does anyone here see a similarity between dprince and slickcoins? Maybe they aren’t the same, but exact same nonsense. dprince: please find another place to go! We honestly need that because we all try hard here and I’m wasting so much time correcting your bull Coinbuf and powermad5000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted November 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) On 11/22/2023 at 5:12 PM, Newenglandrarities said: Does anyone here see a similarity between dprince and slickcoins? Maybe they aren’t the same, but exact same nonsense. dprince: please find another place to go! We honestly need that because we all try hard here and I’m wasting so much time correcting your bull While there seems to be a commonality of mental illness I do not think they are the same individual. Slick wants attention but also interaction, this guy is ignoring most members (I'm sure that he has maxed out the number of ignores the system allows ), and not seeking out interaction with other members. He is also baiting members, like with Larry, on his follow the picture post. I guess to try and get an over-the-top reaction and see if he can get someone here banned, childish and immature; the truly sad part is that the @ModeratorUS of this forum seem not to care at all about all the bogus information he is spewing and all the misinformation that he is responsible for. I think there is no relation to slick, but I would not be surprised to find out that prince is an alt or a rebirth of a former banned member, however infrequent that happens. Edited November 23, 2023 by Coinbuf EagleRJO, Hinkle, Newenglandrarities and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Newenglandrarities 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 I'm going to be the "odd man out" here. I think that the "9" in the 1957-D Lincoln cent that the OP asked about actually does have a die chip clogging its upper portion, as is very common for cents of this era and especially those dated 1957. I've seen others like it. I think, therefore, that @dprince1138 was correct in this case. Unfortunately, like the boy who cried "wolf", he has posted disinformation so many times that he has discredited himself to an extent that no one believes anything that he says. To the OP--Die chips like this are not regarded as significant mint errors, command no premium, and will not be attributed by grading services. "NGC does not recognize as mint error coins those with minor die chips, breaks and rotations, etc., that fall within our interpretation of mint tolerance." Variety vs. Mint Error | NGC (ngccoin.com). However, there was once a fad of collecting a similar, common type of die chip on cents of this era, as discussed in the following topic: R__Rash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R__Rash Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) On 11/22/2023 at 9:18 PM, Sandon said: I'm going to be the "odd man out" here. I think that the "9" in the 1957-D Lincoln cent that the OP asked about actually does have a die chip clogging its upper portion, as is very common for cents of this era and especially those dated 1957. I've seen others like it. I think, therefore, that @dprince1138 was correct in this case. Unfortunately, like the boy who cried "wolf", he has posted disinformation so many times that he has discredited himself to an extent that no one believes anything that he says. To the OP--Die chips like this are not regarded as significant mint errors, command no premium, and will not be attributed by grading services. "NGC does not recognize as mint error coins those with minor die chips, breaks and rotations, etc., that fall within our interpretation of mint tolerance." Variety vs. Mint Error | NGC (ngccoin.com). However, there was once a fad of collecting a similar, common type of die chip on cents of this era, as discussed in the following topic: Finale! 👍 Here is another example of the same Worthless die chip and some worthless MD (machine doubling) for this year of exhausted equipment and die… Edited November 23, 2023 by R__Rash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcarr Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 3:24 AM, EagleRJO said: Where do you see a cud? No, wrong. If you actually looked at the photos you would see the "9" as well as the "7" in the date have taken hits, moving around the soft copper metal. It is definitely a genuine mint error "die chip" in the upper loop of the 9. The top left of the 7 has an impact mark on it. But even though it is a genuine error coin, the value is not much more than the 3-cents that common wheat-back cents sell for in bulk. R__Rash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 11:26 PM, R__Rash said: Here is another example of the same Worthless die chip and some worthless MD I agree that cent looks like it has MD with a possible die chip or die deterioration at the "9", but it's not the same as the op's coin. To me the upper left part of the "9" on the op's coin looks flatter and wider than the rest of the "9", and there is a disturbed area at the top of the loop indicative of some of the soft copper being displaced from a hit. We have had a few copper cent over time with a similar look where pieces of the date were actually completely displaced. powermad5000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...