1976 Bicentennial Quarter With Filled D? 1 1

[Erin33]

This looks like the D is filled ..I may be wrong? But the back if you look at his face his nose looks like a beak. Is that an error? Tell me whatcha think. What causes the his nose to look like that?

Edited October 31, 2023 by Erin33

[Coinbuf]

this quarter has far too much circulation damage and wear and tear to be of any numismatic value.   I am guessing that you saw some you tube video that told you to look for filled mintmarks, you can stop doing that.   There is nothing in the least bit of numismatic value or interest in filled mintmarks, utter rubbish. 

That may sound harsh and I'm not trying to be, but there is nothing to learn from super common coins like this in such poor condition.   Absolutely no one can say with any degree of certainty if what you see on this coin is the result of production or circulation.   Common modern coins in this condition are only good for spending, not for studying or learning.

Edited October 31, 2023 by Coinbuf

[EagleRJO]

There are no mintmark varieties of interest to collectors of the 1976-D 25C and only DDO's would be attributed by NGC.

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plus/united-states/quarters/washington-quarters-1932-1998/?page=2

http://varietyvista.com/25 What Are Die Varieties/Mintmark Varieties.htm

Likely just the result of some common die chips on a circulated coin that have no collector value, and are simply curiosity finds for roll hunters.

[powermad5000]

The photos are a somewhat blurry and a little washed out by light, but from what I can tell from them is you have a well circulated and partially environmentally damaged Bicentennial quarter. On a coin in this condition, a mintmark that took a hit and then got worn down well can look like a filled mintmark. Even if a die chip or overpolishing of the die causing a mintmark to be filled on a prime uncirculated coin adds no premium and is not an error.

As for the "beak", between wear, hits, and environmental damage (and possibly even an added die chip in the mix), there is what I would call an "anomaly" in that spot. Not an error nor would it be certified by a TPG as such. Please do not fall into the deep dark hole of pareidolia that some of the people on here have. Mostly there is a reasonable rational explanation for everything found on the surface of a coin.

[VKurtB]

This coin struggles to be worth 25 cents.

[Erin33]

On 10/30/2023 at 9:31 PM, Coinbuf said:

this quarter has far too much circulation damage and wear and tear to be of any numismatic value.   I am guessing that you saw some you tube video that told you to look for filled mintmarks, you can stop doing that.   There is nothing in the least bit of numismatic value or interest in filled mintmarks, utter rubbish. 

That may sound harsh and I'm not trying to be, but there is nothing to learn from super common coins like this in such poor condition.   Absolutely no one can say with any degree of certainty if what you see on this coin is the result of production or circulation.   Common modern coins in this condition are only good for spending, not for studying or learning.

I would never send in in something like this..I was just curious that’s all. 

[Erin33]

On 10/30/2023 at 11:53 PM, powermad5000 said:

The photos are a somewhat blurry and a little washed out by light, but from what I can tell from them is you have a well circulated and partially environmentally damaged Bicentennial quarter. On a coin in this condition, a mintmark that took a hit and then got worn down well can look like a filled mintmark. Even if a die chip or overpolishing of the die causing a mintmark to be filled on a prime uncirculated coin adds no premium and is not an error.

As for the "beak", between wear, hits, and environmental damage (and possibly even an added die chip in the mix), there is what I would call an "anomaly" in that spot. Not an error nor would it be certified by a TPG as such. Please do not fall into the deep dark hole of pareidolia that some of the people on here have. Mostly there is a reasonable rational explanation for everything found on the surface of a coin.

So over polishing coins can lead to a filled D?  I understand that this is nothing to grade ..trying to learn. 

[Erin33]

On 10/30/2023 at 10:13 PM, EagleRJO said:

There are no mintmark varieties of interest to collectors of the 1976-D 25C and only DDO's would be attributed by NGC.

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plus/united-states/quarters/washington-quarters-1932-1998/?page=2

http://varietyvista.com/25 What Are Die Varieties/Mintmark Varieties.htm

Likely just the result of some common die chips on a circulated coin that have no collector value, and are simply curiosity finds for roll hunters.

Thanks so much for the links✊🏻

[Coinbuf]

On 10/31/2023 at 10:33 AM, Erin33 said:

I would never send in in something like this..I was just curious that’s all. 

I did not think you were and was not trying to imply that you would.   My point is that you say you are trying to learn, but what can you learn from a modern coin in this poor of condition.   I don't mean to imply that you cannot learn from some circulated coins, but those (like this one) which have so much damage from the time in commerce are seldom useful learning tools.

Maybe an analogy will better illustrate my point.   You look at a wreck between a train and car, you turn to me and ask if the mangled car had a dent before the wreck, how would I know or be able to tell.

You simply cannot separate the damage to your quarter from any possible anomalies that may have happened at the time it was struck.   You have to have a better host coin that is not all banged and beat up to be able to learn anything.   Curiosity is great and a good thing, but it serves no purpose on a coin like this.

Edited October 31, 2023 by Coinbuf

[powermad5000]

On 10/31/2023 at 12:36 PM, Erin33 said:

So over polishing coins can lead to a filled D?

Not the coin itself. The die used to strike the coin. When the press has struck thousands of coins, sometimes the press operator will stop the press if the quality of the strikes is diminishing, and the die will get polished to extend the life of the die. Especially on dies that are already overused and may have already been polished to extend the life of the die, additional polishing of the die can cause the small image of the mintmark to become "filled" on subsequent strikes due to the die being "overpolished" and overused.

[Mike Meenderink]

On 10/31/2023 at 2:51 PM, powermad5000 said:

Not the coin itself. The die used to strike the coin. When the press has struck thousands of coins, sometimes the press operator will stop the press if the quality of the strikes is diminishing, and the die will get polished to extend the life of the die. Especially on dies that are already overused and may have already been polished to extend the life of the die, additional polishing of the die can cause the small image of the mintmark to become "filled" on subsequent strikes due to the die being "overpolished" and overused.

Exactly correct but I may add the center "post" of the tiny D mint mark can also wear down and / or chips out. This die state leads to blob mint marks on D mint coins as well. 

[dprince1138]

Reminds me of a die description where liberty is described as having what seems to be a hairlip.

 

 

 

[J P M]

On 10/31/2023 at 6:57 PM, dprince1138 said:

Reminds me of a die description where liberty is described as having what seems to be a hairlip.

 

 

 

Are you thinking Hot Lips

[dprince1138]

[J P M]

More like this

[dprince1138]

No.  Although, it is called a harelip, rather than a hairlip.  The die in question is for a capped bust half dollar.

"Mouth is open and the upper lip has a sharp curl, might be called a harelip."