Dascher Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Hello everyone: I'm assuming this is NOT the coveted DDO due to the lack of clear doubling, and that it's just a teasing, ordinary double strike? Just want to be extra sure and if so, does anyone have any idea if it would have any meaningful value anyway? Thanks for the help since I'm still new(ish) at all this and mostly focus on cherry picking foreign coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) It is not a doubled die. Worth a few cents only. Keep looking Edited October 6, 2022 by Just Bob Dascher and RonnieR131 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 This coin is neither a doubled die nor a "double strike", by which I assume the poster means a coin that was struck twice. The coin exhibits faint "strike doubling", which results from a single strike where a normal die was slightly loose in the press, producing a "shelf-like" secondary image that is lighter and in lower relief than the primary image. On a doubled die, in which the double image is in the die itself, the two images at or about the same strength and relief. Strike doubling is common and worth little or no premium. NGC's photo of the date area of the very rare 1969-S doubled die cent follows. Note the equal height doubling of all the numbers, while the "S" mint mark, which was punched into the die separately, shows no doubling. Photos of the similar doubling on the obverse lettering can be found in the entry for this variety in NGC VarietyPlus. There are also photos in the "Redbook". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Wow, cherry picking FOREIGN coins? You d’man! Or you are on the way there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dascher Posted October 6, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 8:19 PM, VKurtB said: Wow, cherry picking FOREIGN coins? You d’man! Or you are on the way there. Thanks, I also play golf... that way I can punish myself with my hobbies year-round, rain or shine :-) EagleRJO, Hoghead515 and RonnieR131 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dascher Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/5/2022 at 7:00 PM, Sandon said: This coin is neither a doubled die nor a "double strike", by which I assume the poster means a coin that was struck twice. The coin exhibits faint "strike doubling", which results from a single strike where a normal die was slightly loose in the press, producing a "shelf-like" secondary image that is lighter and in lower relief than the primary image. On a doubled die, in which the double image is in the die itself, the two images at or about the same strength and relief. Strike doubling is common and worth little or no premium. NGC's photo of the date area of the very rare 1969-S doubled die cent follows. Note the equal height doubling of all the numbers, while the "S" mint mark, which was punched into the die separately, shows no doubling. Photos of the similar doubling on the obverse lettering can be found in the entry for this variety in NGC VarietyPlus. There are also photos in the "Redbook". Yes, meant "strike doubling". Still trying to master numismatic vernacular, so thank you for the semantic spanking. Lesson learned & appreciated. Edited October 6, 2022 by Dascher RonnieR131 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 The attached may help related to doubling. Note that doubling for hand punched dates and marks is a little different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dascher Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 1:32 PM, EagleRJO said: The attached may help related to doubling. Note that doubling for hand punched dates and marks is a little different. Cool. Thanks EagleRJO! I appreciate you taking the time to help me out like this. Be good... - JFD EagleRJO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member: Seasoned Veteran Popular Post DWLange Posted October 6, 2022 Member: Seasoned Veteran Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2022 Chuck Daughtrey is among the unsung heroes of numismatics. I'm proud to own a complete, matching set of his engraver portraits that he drew and issued some years ago. I wish I still had an office to display them in. Dascher, Oldhoopster, Hoghead515 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) The sketch I posted really is an excellent graphic representation of doubling that just jumps out at you. Does he have more sketches for other errors or attributes of coins? Edited October 7, 2022 by EagleRJO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member: Seasoned Veteran DWLange Posted October 7, 2022 Member: Seasoned Veteran Share Posted October 7, 2022 I don't believe so, but he had his own website you can check. EagleRJO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 11:42 PM, Dascher said: ... thank you for the semantic spanking. Lesson learned & appreciated. Don't take it personally. He is like that with everybody who is not being technically precise, which I actually appreciate. Keeps you on your toes. Dascher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dascher Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) On 10/6/2022 at 10:34 PM, EagleRJO said: Don't take it personally. He is like that with everybody who is not being technically precise, which I actually appreciate. Keeps you on your toes. Thanks for the encouragement and words of wisdom, of which I agree. I'll consider it a healthy dose of character-building hazing from Niedermeyer as Nu Gamma Chi pledge Pinto at Numismatic U! Edited October 7, 2022 by Dascher EagleRJO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 12:42 PM, Dascher said: a healthy dose of character-building hazing from Niedermeyer Funny stuff, and great movie. I have had my share too. Like "left wing of an eagle" on the reverse of a coin. Did I mean the wing on the left side of the coin or the left facing wing (wing on the right side of the coin). 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
